For a better example of a case where rational debate is useless, I’d take an exiled Tibetan and a Chinese Nationalist debating about the status of Tibet.
I think that’s somewhat more amenable to rationality—the “Screw Tibet, free China!” bumper sticker I once saw comes to mind here. But I mostly picked abortion because it’s the most prominent such example and the one I’ve thought most about, not because it’s necessarily the best illustration.
For a better example of a case where rational debate is useless, I’d take an exiled Tibetan and a Chinese Nationalist debating about the status of Tibet.
I think that’s somewhat more amenable to rationality—the “Screw Tibet, free China!” bumper sticker I once saw comes to mind here. But I mostly picked abortion because it’s the most prominent such example and the one I’ve thought most about, not because it’s necessarily the best illustration.