both the plaintiff and the defendant are kicked out of the community
This is unironically a great idea. It doesn’t hinge on annoying questions of evidentiary standards, mens rea, seriousness of the charge, conflicts of interest etc. The idea that you can take anyone down, no matter how influential or powerful, if you’re willing to go down with them really appeals to me.
Disagreement votes don’t lower your karma, do they? I (strongly) disagreed, but I don’t want to even marginally contribute to you getting rate limited. Either way, I have now more than evened it out.
I’ve never been rate-limited, not even on EAforum where I get downvoted a lot, so I worry more about the social status/brand reputation loss from people seeing my comments with any kind of negative karma attached to them.
This is unironically a great idea. It doesn’t hinge on annoying questions of evidentiary standards, mens rea, seriousness of the charge, conflicts of interest etc. The idea that you can take anyone down, no matter how influential or powerful, if you’re willing to go down with them really appeals to me.
Yeah, you probably can’t.
I think this is a mistake; it’s easy to twist people out of shape such that they take themselves down and one of your enemies.
This is prevalent in elite human systems e.g. among corporate executives, and it’s instrumentally convergent so smart psychos will discover opportunities for it here too, and it’s also highly exploitable by tech companies and intelligence agencies if anyone working there ever decides they’d like AI safety out of the way.
You’re right that this would open up new avenues for inter-elite conflict. That’s the tradeoff for sharply curbing elite abuse of the less powerful.
I think this was good commentary, and I would never have noticed the exploit without it. For the record, I upvoted.
Disagreement votes don’t lower your karma, do they? I (strongly) disagreed, but I don’t want to even marginally contribute to you getting rate limited. Either way, I have now more than evened it out.
I’ve never been rate-limited, not even on EAforum where I get downvoted a lot, so I worry more about the social status/brand reputation loss from people seeing my comments with any kind of negative karma attached to them.
Suicide bombing?