As I said on that post, I didn’t want to host a general discussion on rationalist holidays as a whole on that post in particular (but this one is fine), and didn’t feel right leaving up a casual trashing of things deeply meaningful to other people without letting them respond.
Any of the following would have made me feel better about the comment:
framing the dislike as a fact about you rather than an objective fact about rationalist holidays
giving explanations (beyond “cringe”, which is often used to police caring too much about unpopular things)
being its own post or a comment on one like this, rather than on a narrowly scoped and fairly personal post.
It wasn’t about defending rationalist holidays for me because rationalist holidays only occasionally resonate with me. But I respect what they mean to other people and didn’t like seeing them so casually torn down.
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, it was meant mostly as an aside and one that strengthened my praise for Vavilov Day (as indicating that this is appealing even to someone who dislikes most rationalist holidays), but I suppose the dislike was too controversial and/or too flippant.
I may write a post of my own describing why I don’t like rationalist holidays/think they can do better, but I think that post would itself likely be extremely controversial so I’d have to approach it carefully.
In my ideal world, one does not put major criticisms of something deeply meaningful to group A, in places where group A is obviously the target audience, in asides. That goes double when the host of that particular island in the archipelago does not want to host the discussion, and triple for anything more inflammatory than strictly necessary. This doesn’t mean criticism is banned or even discouraged, it just means that when you have a major difference in cruxes you focus on that crux rather than the implications of the crux (and in a place set up to handle that).
I am interested in why Vavilov Day feels different to people than common rationalist holidays. Czynski’s comment on holiday cores on the original post was useful and cruxy.
I am interested in why Vavilov Day feels different to people than common rationalist holidays.
I think that my comments on that will unfortunately involve substantial criticism of other rationalist celebrations in a way that you may not wish to host. I will perhaps write up another post with more detail.
I don’t endorse the archipelago model for LW and this is a good example of why—making that comment, I had no idea that you didn’t want to host the discussion or in fact what your opinions on other rationalist holidays were. I’m happy to go along with your decisions since that is the model we have, but I’m not sure how I would have known what you thought on these matters from the post I commented on.
As I said on that post, I didn’t want to host a general discussion on rationalist holidays as a whole on that post in particular (but this one is fine), and didn’t feel right leaving up a casual trashing of things deeply meaningful to other people without letting them respond.
Any of the following would have made me feel better about the comment:
framing the dislike as a fact about you rather than an objective fact about rationalist holidays
giving explanations (beyond “cringe”, which is often used to police caring too much about unpopular things)
being its own post or a comment on one like this, rather than on a narrowly scoped and fairly personal post.
It wasn’t about defending rationalist holidays for me because rationalist holidays only occasionally resonate with me. But I respect what they mean to other people and didn’t like seeing them so casually torn down.
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, it was meant mostly as an aside and one that strengthened my praise for Vavilov Day (as indicating that this is appealing even to someone who dislikes most rationalist holidays), but I suppose the dislike was too controversial and/or too flippant.
I may write a post of my own describing why I don’t like rationalist holidays/think they can do better, but I think that post would itself likely be extremely controversial so I’d have to approach it carefully.
In my ideal world, one does not put major criticisms of something deeply meaningful to group A, in places where group A is obviously the target audience, in asides. That goes double when the host of that particular island in the archipelago does not want to host the discussion, and triple for anything more inflammatory than strictly necessary. This doesn’t mean criticism is banned or even discouraged, it just means that when you have a major difference in cruxes you focus on that crux rather than the implications of the crux (and in a place set up to handle that).
I am interested in why Vavilov Day feels different to people than common rationalist holidays. Czynski’s comment on holiday cores on the original post was useful and cruxy.
I think that my comments on that will unfortunately involve substantial criticism of other rationalist celebrations in a way that you may not wish to host. I will perhaps write up another post with more detail.
I don’t endorse the archipelago model for LW and this is a good example of why—making that comment, I had no idea that you didn’t want to host the discussion or in fact what your opinions on other rationalist holidays were. I’m happy to go along with your decisions since that is the model we have, but I’m not sure how I would have known what you thought on these matters from the post I commented on.