Reality check: most liberal people? trust fund kids at expensive colleges. most conservative people? working class.
Really disagree there. Plenty of trust fund kids are conservative, plenty of scholarship students are liberal… even at the same university. I think if you want to generalize, the more apt generalization is city vs. rural areas. There are tons of “working class” liberals, they work in service industries instead of coal mines. The big difference is the proximity to actual diversity, when you work with and live with and see diverse people every day, you get acclimated to it and accept it as the norm; when you live in a rural area with few people, nearly all of whom are white, you get acclimated to that. When the societal norm of rural areas is a more conservative, Christian mindset, and that in the cities is a more liberal mindset then it follows naturally that people in these areas would generally develop into those dominating mindsets.
I’m not sure that your statement about who gets hurt in the past is more likely to be conservative in the future is true, either. Your conclusion doesn’t directly follow from the premise, and I can think of numerous personal and historical examples that run counter. Same with “liberals are sheltered”, you offer no evidence that links your premise to conclusion and there are tons of counter examples.
The big difference is the proximity to actual diversity, when you work with and live with and see diverse people every day, you get acclimated to it and accept it as the norm;
This makes me wonder how much of the liberal/conservative divide with how seriously we take minor acts of terrorism has to do with direct experience with big cities. If you don’t live in a city, hearing about a terrorist attack in a city is probably really scary, but if you’ve actually lived in a big city, a few people dying every few years is incredibly uneventful (for comparison, 318 people were murdered in my city last year).
A century ago, before liberal social policies, this would be considered an unacceptably high level of crime. Heck, I consider Baltimore a borderline post-apocalyptic no-go zone. Although I’m sure parts of it, specifically the parts with the fewest ethnic minorities, are ok. But as Eliezer said:
if people got hit on the head by a baseball bat every week, pretty soon they would invent reasons why getting hit on the head with a baseball bat was a good thing.
Reality check: most liberal people? trust fund kids at expensive colleges. most conservative people? working class.
Really disagree there. Plenty of trust fund kids are conservative, plenty of scholarship students are liberal… even at the same university. I think if you want to generalize, the more apt generalization is city vs. rural areas. There are tons of “working class” liberals, they work in service industries instead of coal mines. The big difference is the proximity to actual diversity, when you work with and live with and see diverse people every day, you get acclimated to it and accept it as the norm; when you live in a rural area with few people, nearly all of whom are white, you get acclimated to that. When the societal norm of rural areas is a more conservative, Christian mindset, and that in the cities is a more liberal mindset then it follows naturally that people in these areas would generally develop into those dominating mindsets.
I’m not sure that your statement about who gets hurt in the past is more likely to be conservative in the future is true, either. Your conclusion doesn’t directly follow from the premise, and I can think of numerous personal and historical examples that run counter. Same with “liberals are sheltered”, you offer no evidence that links your premise to conclusion and there are tons of counter examples.
Kind of like how the mayor of London said people must now accept a certain level of terrorism as ‘Part & Parcel’ of living in a big city?
This makes me wonder how much of the liberal/conservative divide with how seriously we take minor acts of terrorism has to do with direct experience with big cities. If you don’t live in a city, hearing about a terrorist attack in a city is probably really scary, but if you’ve actually lived in a big city, a few people dying every few years is incredibly uneventful (for comparison, 318 people were murdered in my city last year).
A century ago, before liberal social policies, this would be considered an unacceptably high level of crime. Heck, I consider Baltimore a borderline post-apocalyptic no-go zone. Although I’m sure parts of it, specifically the parts with the fewest ethnic minorities, are ok. But as Eliezer said: