I think you may be underestimating what Val is not mentioning. Galileo’s Dialogue that Val focuses on so exclusively was not published for another 15 years after Copernicanism was banned (de jure at least).
We have to strike a balance between not overgeneralizing, when the Catholic church did include good scientists, and also not over-dividing, when the Catholic church as an organization was very anti-scientific in its approach to heliocentrism.
I was never claiming that the Catholic Church was always right, I was only talking about some very heavy biases a lot of people have in this topic.. One of the articles I linked (http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1402/1402.6168.pdf) deals specifically with the importance and weight of the ban you mentioned.
I was never claiming that the Catholic Church was always right
You seem to say this a lot in the comments. I’m not sure whether you’re obliquely agreeing that the Catholic church’s sum effect was antiscientific in the case of heliocentrism, or whether you’re just trying to dodge the issue.
I think you may be underestimating what Val is not mentioning. Galileo’s Dialogue that Val focuses on so exclusively was not published for another 15 years after Copernicanism was banned (de jure at least).
We have to strike a balance between not overgeneralizing, when the Catholic church did include good scientists, and also not over-dividing, when the Catholic church as an organization was very anti-scientific in its approach to heliocentrism.
I was never claiming that the Catholic Church was always right, I was only talking about some very heavy biases a lot of people have in this topic.. One of the articles I linked (http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1402/1402.6168.pdf) deals specifically with the importance and weight of the ban you mentioned.
You seem to say this a lot in the comments. I’m not sure whether you’re obliquely agreeing that the Catholic church’s sum effect was antiscientific in the case of heliocentrism, or whether you’re just trying to dodge the issue.