The task of relaxing all of Prune at once is monumental. Instead, relax the Gates individually in order. Simultaneously, shorten the psychological distance between them.
This is intriguing. I want to give it a try sometime. I like the way you set it up. This recommendation naturally follows from the model of the multiple dams, or the multiple tar-and-featherers.
Rationalist training (and schooling in general) slants towards developing Prune over Babble. I’m trying to solve the dual problem: that of improving the quality of your Babble.
I suspect this mischaracterizes a fair amount of rationality training. I would want to know what you are concretely referring to.
Public school: I recall kindergarten and elementary school encouraged babbling. My recollection is hazy. Your experience may vary.
….a medium much more free-form and personal than the book.
Them be fighting words (book lover here). This point of contention is unimportant to your thesis.
I like the overall arc, and the metaphor of the river and gates. This accurately captures my thinking processes. The important feature of the metaphor for me: the “river” is large, big, and held back. It gives me glee to think of my babble in that fashion, accurate or not. I enjoy the implication that babble flows freely (uncontrollably?) absent the Three Gates.
Regarding rationalist training, I’m referring to the category of error containing Knowing about Biases can Hurt People and the “Rationalist Uncanny Valley”, i.e. that an incomplete random sample of the Sequences will leave the reader with mostly just a toolkit of biases and fallacies to throw at people in debate team, and worse, themselves. This roughly translates to building more logic Gates in your own Prune. I think a substantial majority of rationalist training is this kind of Prune exercise, although there’s definitely confirmation bias (see what I mean? That thought almost made me delete the last sentence) going on. Curious to hear the examples of rationalist training encouraging Babble you have in mind.
I’m mostly thinking of: conversations I’ve had with Rationalists in Berkeley. They encouraged me to do some exercises involving free-association and idea generation. For example coming up with a list of twenty plants as quickly as possible. Or saying 5 words that I do not mentally associate with each other. Improv-style exercises (perhaps excellent method of training some types of babble).
I see where you are coming from. I agree with your comment w.r.t. what you are pointing at :).
Preliminary comments:
This is intriguing. I want to give it a try sometime. I like the way you set it up. This recommendation naturally follows from the model of the multiple dams, or the multiple tar-and-featherers.
I suspect this mischaracterizes a fair amount of rationality training. I would want to know what you are concretely referring to.
Public school: I recall kindergarten and elementary school encouraged babbling. My recollection is hazy. Your experience may vary.
Them be fighting words (book lover here). This point of contention is unimportant to your thesis.
I like the overall arc, and the metaphor of the river and gates. This accurately captures my thinking processes. The important feature of the metaphor for me: the “river” is large, big, and held back. It gives me glee to think of my babble in that fashion, accurate or not. I enjoy the implication that babble flows freely (uncontrollably?) absent the Three Gates.
Regarding rationalist training, I’m referring to the category of error containing Knowing about Biases can Hurt People and the “Rationalist Uncanny Valley”, i.e. that an incomplete random sample of the Sequences will leave the reader with mostly just a toolkit of biases and fallacies to throw at people in debate team, and worse, themselves. This roughly translates to building more logic Gates in your own Prune. I think a substantial majority of rationalist training is this kind of Prune exercise, although there’s definitely confirmation bias (see what I mean? That thought almost made me delete the last sentence) going on. Curious to hear the examples of rationalist training encouraging Babble you have in mind.
I’m mostly thinking of: conversations I’ve had with Rationalists in Berkeley. They encouraged me to do some exercises involving free-association and idea generation. For example coming up with a list of twenty plants as quickly as possible. Or saying 5 words that I do not mentally associate with each other. Improv-style exercises (perhaps excellent method of training some types of babble).
I see where you are coming from. I agree with your comment w.r.t. what you are pointing at :).