“Pass the Turing Test” is a goal, and is therefore a subset of GI. The Wikipedia article says “Artificial general intelligence (AGI) is the intelligence of a (hypothetical) machine that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can.”
That quote describes what a general intelligence can do, not what it is. And you can’t extract the Turing test from it. A general intelligence might perform tasks better but in a different way which distinguishes it from a human.
Your claim that OpenCog can “eventually” accomplish any task is unsupported, is not something that has been “implemented”, and is not what is generally understood as what AGI refers to.
I explained quite well how OpenCog’s use of MOSES—already implemented—to search program space achieves universality. It is your claim that OpenCog can’t accomplish (certain?) tasks that is unsupported. Care to explain?
That wouldn’t prove anything, because the Turing test doesn’t prove anything… A general intelligence might perform tasks better but in a different way which distinguishes it from a human, thereby making the Turing test not a useful test of general intelligence..
Eh, “chatting in such a way as to successfully masquerade as a human against a panel of trained judges” is a very, very difficult task. Likely more difficult than “develop molecular nanotechnology” or other tasks that might be given to a seed stage or oracle AGI. So while a general intelligence should be able to pass the Turing test—eventually! -- I would be very suspicious if it came before other milestones which are really what we are seeking an AGI to do.
The Wikipedia article says “Artificial general intelligence (AGI) is the intelligence of a (hypothetical) machine that could successfully perform any intellectual task that a human being can.”
Chatting may be difficult, but it is needed to fulfill the official definition of aAGI.
Your comments amount to having a different definition of AGI.
That quote describes what a general intelligence can do, not what it is. And you can’t extract the Turing test from it. A general intelligence might perform tasks better but in a different way which distinguishes it from a human.
I explained quite well how OpenCog’s use of MOSES—already implemented—to search program space achieves universality. It is your claim that OpenCog can’t accomplish (certain?) tasks that is unsupported. Care to explain?
Don’t argue about, it, put openCog up for a .TT.
That wouldn’t prove anything, because the Turing test doesn’t prove anything… A general intelligence might perform tasks better but in a different way which distinguishes it from a human, thereby making the Turing test not a useful test of general intelligence..
You’re assuming chatting is not a task.
.NL is also a pre requisite for a wide range of other tasks: an entity that lacks it will not be able to write books or tell jokes.
It seems as though you have trivialised the “general” into “able to do whatever it can do, but not able to do anything else”.
Eh, “chatting in such a way as to successfully masquerade as a human against a panel of trained judges” is a very, very difficult task. Likely more difficult than “develop molecular nanotechnology” or other tasks that might be given to a seed stage or oracle AGI. So while a general intelligence should be able to pass the Turing test—eventually! -- I would be very suspicious if it came before other milestones which are really what we are seeking an AGI to do.
Chatting may be difficult, but it is needed to fulfill the official definition of aAGI.
Your comments amount to having a different definition of AGI.