For what it’s worth, Ben Goertzel isn’t SIAI’s research director anymore (and said something to the effect that he never actually ended up directing much research there).
I wonder where the “does not consider his AI theory reasonable” quote comes from; no Google results for it other than this page, and davidr appears to be gone, so we can’t ask him...)
(It does ring true anyway, since Eliezer has declared Ben “mostly harmless”, despite Novamente not being based on Friendliness as a top priority. Though a debate between them on Ben’s criticism of SIAI’s approach, and Eliezer’s disagreement with Ben’s approach, may be interesting.)
Mildly interesting is that in response to the question “is he one of the people whom you classify as poor misguided fools?”, Eliezer said “don’t publicly ask questions that I could not reasonably be expected to publicly answer”, which I’m assuming means “yes”.
Edit2: Oh, and “My dialogs with Ben are recorded in the ancient archives of the SL4 mailing list; I can’t say I’m really interested in continuing them.”
Mildly interesting is that in response to the question “is he one of the people whom you classify as poor misguided fools?”, Eliezer said “don’t publicly ask questions that I could not reasonably be expected to publicly answer”, which I’m assuming means “yes”.
Many would take the approach of giving that answer to all such questions, regardless of how they would answer in the specific instance. That allows them to avoid giving away information when questions come up that they particularly don’t want to answer.
For what it’s worth, Ben Goertzel isn’t SIAI’s research director anymore (and said something to the effect that he never actually ended up directing much research there).
I wonder where the “does not consider his AI theory reasonable” quote comes from; no Google results for it other than this page, and davidr appears to be gone, so we can’t ask him...)
(It does ring true anyway, since Eliezer has declared Ben “mostly harmless”, despite Novamente not being based on Friendliness as a top priority. Though a debate between them on Ben’s criticism of SIAI’s approach, and Eliezer’s disagreement with Ben’s approach, may be interesting.)
Edit: Ah, here’s the source of the quote.
Mildly interesting is that in response to the question “is he one of the people whom you classify as poor misguided fools?”, Eliezer said “don’t publicly ask questions that I could not reasonably be expected to publicly answer”, which I’m assuming means “yes”.
Edit2: Oh, and “My dialogs with Ben are recorded in the ancient archives of the SL4 mailing list; I can’t say I’m really interested in continuing them.”
Many would take the approach of giving that answer to all such questions, regardless of how they would answer in the specific instance. That allows them to avoid giving away information when questions come up that they particularly don’t want to answer.