My friends, your models of reality are absurd! We are all sticks floating down a river, with no free will or ability to change anything. All is as it must be, flowing in accordance with the Force. You can swim upstream or downstream, but either way, if the universe wills paperclips, there will be paperclips; if it wills AI gods, there will be AI gods. The Force is strong with Ben Goertzel, because I sense that this is his intuition, though he doesn’t dare say it.
(shrug) If the universe wills that I eat lunch, I eat lunch; if it wills that I don’t eat lunch, I don’t eat lunch. That is not in any way incompatible with the fact that, if I am to eat lunch, I have to get off the couch and go get lunch.
More generally: even if we can’t change anything, that doesn’t mean that changes won’t happen because of our efforts.
My friends, your models of reality are absurd! We are all sticks floating down a river, with no free will or ability to change anything. All is as it must be, flowing in accordance with the Force. You can swim upstream or downstream, but either way, if the universe wills paperclips, there will be paperclips; if it wills AI gods, there will be AI gods. The Force is strong with Ben Goertzel, because I sense that this is his intuition, though he doesn’t dare say it.
Commence downvoting in 3…2…1… MTFBWY…
Note: I (and some others) almost-automatically downvote any comment that complains about, or predicts, being downvoted.
(shrug)
If the universe wills that I eat lunch, I eat lunch; if it wills that I don’t eat lunch, I don’t eat lunch.
That is not in any way incompatible with the fact that, if I am to eat lunch, I have to get off the couch and go get lunch.
More generally: even if we can’t change anything, that doesn’t mean that changes won’t happen because of our efforts.
You are an enlightened being TheOtherDave, I have no arguments with your position. MTFBWY...