Following up on the earlier “why death rates seem to be weirdly persistently high in the aftermath of omicron”, thank you for this link:
This thread attempts to explain the high death counts in the context of Denmark, claiming that many of the Covid deaths are ‘with-Covid’ and not causally linked to the disease. The impact is potentially on the order of 40% of deaths being misattributed, which would go a long way to explaining why death rates are not declining so quickly when cases are in rapid decline here in America.
Clicking through and reading, the two sort of “objective clear relevant lines of data” that suggest there might be miscounting in Denmark were: (1) “excess deaths above historical baselines” were not up in a way that suggested covid’s presence was causing more death in some sort of systemic way, and (2) ICU admission rates weren’t spiking in the way you might expect due to a mechanism like pneumonia causing low O2 causing special treatments (that might fail) leading to clear specific covid deaths via a primary pathological mechanism.
Non-obvious causal routes to death might cause the “deaths above baseline”, and the main route to death presumably routes through a “swing and miss” by an ICU trying for a save.
If neither are going up when the official number goes up… it is consistent with the official number failing to track actual causal associations.
So: even if it is mildly bad news about the diligence of the people whose official counting processes could be less fake, and of higher quality… it is good news about the actual health of actual humans! :-)
Following up on the earlier “why death rates seem to be weirdly persistently high in the aftermath of omicron”, thank you for this link:
Clicking through and reading, the two sort of “objective clear relevant lines of data” that suggest there might be miscounting in Denmark were: (1) “excess deaths above historical baselines” were not up in a way that suggested covid’s presence was causing more death in some sort of systemic way, and (2) ICU admission rates weren’t spiking in the way you might expect due to a mechanism like pneumonia causing low O2 causing special treatments (that might fail) leading to clear specific covid deaths via a primary pathological mechanism.
Non-obvious causal routes to death might cause the “deaths above baseline”, and the main route to death presumably routes through a “swing and miss” by an ICU trying for a save.
If neither are going up when the official number goes up… it is consistent with the official number failing to track actual causal associations.
So: even if it is mildly bad news about the diligence of the people whose official counting processes could be less fake, and of higher quality… it is good news about the actual health of actual humans! :-)