“My impression is that two nonlinear employees were upset that they weren’t getting paid enough, and had hurt feelings about some minor incidents like not getting a veggieburger, and made some major claims like being forced to carry illegal drugs across national borders.so They came into contact with Ben Pace, who wrote somea mean blog posts about the Nonlinear leadership and also paid the former employees for their story. Tthe Nonlinear leadership responded that actually they were getting paid enough (seems to amount to something like $100k/yr all in?) and that they’d mostly made it up.”
Where is this coming from? My interpretation of the situation is that they were only being paid $1k/month but also that this was very clearly agreed on up front.
That’s what nonlinear says it amounts to including all travel expenses, living, etc. Which I really don’t see why other people here choose not to include. If I was an unskilled laborer and my boss was taking me to Costa Rica, giving me my own room with an ocean view, paying for all my meals and transportation, and all my other expenses, that would be a pretty good compensation package.
That’s what it seems like they were doing to me from discussions about their work.
definition of unskilled labor: “labor that requires relatively little or no training or experience for its satisfactory performance”
What I’ve read alice and chloe did:
booking flights
driving to places
renting transportation
cleaning up around the house
doing laundry
filling out forms
buying groceries
edit: Looked at the responsibilities on the job description. Reads like unskilled labor there to me. Especially how the story seems to be that even for filing miscellaneous forms the executive assistant got a ton of help from management and couldn’t do it on their own.
If you have a different opinion on what their work amounted to I’d be interested to hear it. But it’s definitely not even close to a crux for me.
Administrative assistants are generally considered skilled, and in the US are legally classified as such (more). I think you’re assuming a baseline level of professional skills that “unskilled” does not normally entail.
(Whether their work was skilled, semi-skilled, or unskilled is also not a crux for me: it’s pretty irrelevant to whether NL acted poorly. I just want accuracy.)
Annualized first 3 months (not counting when she chose her own pay): $74,940 Annualized when she chose her own salary (25% of her time working at Nonlinear): $72,000 ($6k/month times 12)
The $100k number comes from including some independent income sources, the size of which is relevant to some other questions, but nobody is arguing the total compensation was $100k/yr.
“My impression is that two nonlinear employees were upset that they weren’t getting paid enough,
andhad hurt feelings about some minor incidents like not getting a veggieburger, and made some major claims like being forced to carry illegal drugs across national borders.soThey came into contact with Ben Pace, who wrotesomea mean blog postsabout the Nonlinear leadership and also paid the former employees for their story. Tthe Nonlinear leadership responded that actually they were getting paid enough (seems to amount to something like $100k/yr all in?) and that they’d mostly made it up.”My summary in track changes.
Where is this coming from? My interpretation of the situation is that they were only being paid $1k/month but also that this was very clearly agreed on up front.
That’s what nonlinear says it amounts to including all travel expenses, living, etc. Which I really don’t see why other people here choose not to include. If I was an unskilled laborer and my boss was taking me to Costa Rica, giving me my own room with an ocean view, paying for all my meals and transportation, and all my other expenses, that would be a pretty good compensation package.
Separate from everything else, I’m confused why you’re glossing Alice and Chloe’s work as “unskilled labor”?
That’s what it seems like they were doing to me from discussions about their work.
definition of unskilled labor: “labor that requires relatively little or no training or experience for its satisfactory performance”
What I’ve read alice and chloe did:
booking flights
driving to places
renting transportation
cleaning up around the house
doing laundry
filling out forms
buying groceries
edit: Looked at the responsibilities on the job description. Reads like unskilled labor there to me. Especially how the story seems to be that even for filing miscellaneous forms the executive assistant got a ton of help from management and couldn’t do it on their own.
If you have a different opinion on what their work amounted to I’d be interested to hear it. But it’s definitely not even close to a crux for me.
Administrative assistants are generally considered skilled, and in the US are legally classified as such (more). I think you’re assuming a baseline level of professional skills that “unskilled” does not normally entail.
(Whether their work was skilled, semi-skilled, or unskilled is also not a crux for me: it’s pretty irrelevant to whether NL acted poorly. I just want accuracy.)
Nonlinear’s own analysis puts the annualized compensation at $70-75k/yr: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JWZ9vpVqqTkRfWWHYA4pZP7DNJdVUI83lnjna0W2W20/edit
The $100k number comes from including some independent income sources, the size of which is relevant to some other questions, but nobody is arguing the total compensation was $100k/yr.
Well, that’s progress.