This actually was one of the things inspiring me to write this post. I was wondering if I could make use of LW community to run such tests, because it would be interesting to get to practice these skills with consent, but trying to devise such tests stumped me. It’s actually pretty difficult to come up with a goal that’s actually difficult to achieve in any not-overtly-hostile social context. Laborious, maybe, but that’s not the same thing. I just kinda generalized from this, that it should actually be pretty easy to run with any consciously named goal and achieve it, but there must be some social inhibition.
The set of things that inspired me was wide and varying. It just may be reflected in how the essay was… Not as coherent as I’d have hoped.
The fact that Eliezer won a zero-sum game isomorphic to one where the opponent declares a winner after talking to him for a period of time is evidence that at least some people do have that level of power.
This actually was one of the things inspiring me to write this post. I was wondering if I could make use of LW community to run such tests, because it would be interesting to get to practice these skills with consent, but trying to devise such tests stumped me. It’s actually pretty difficult to come up with a goal that’s actually difficult to achieve in any not-overtly-hostile social context. Laborious, maybe, but that’s not the same thing. I just kinda generalized from this, that it should actually be pretty easy to run with any consciously named goal and achieve it, but there must be some social inhibition.
The set of things that inspired me was wide and varying. It just may be reflected in how the essay was… Not as coherent as I’d have hoped.
Have you heard about the AI box experiment?
Eliezer won it twice, but ISTR he said he felt terrible afterwards because he wasn’t sure the other party’s consent was informed enough.
The fact that Eliezer won a zero-sum game isomorphic to one where the opponent declares a winner after talking to him for a period of time is evidence that at least some people do have that level of power.
I don’t get the point of this comment.
Jonil asked for ways to test his manipulation skills, and I offered an example of such a test.