I believe that operating from tell culture when interacting on LessWrong is fine. Yes, that will mean that people who are socialized in guess culture will find some things rude or unpleasant but that doesn’t justify LessWrong switching to ask culture norms.
Jordan Peterson’s rules for life are about taking responsibility for your own life. It seems like you advocate here that other people are supposed to take responsibilty for you feeling offended.
I seems to me like you are violating the rule you appear when you advocate here if you state that ozziegooen should have self censored themselves instead of truthfully expressing what he believed to be true.
My response is fine in tell culture too no? I’m stating what I believe to be true of their comment. Why is it ok for ozziegooen to speak truthfully in his comment but it’s not ok for me to reply truthfully wrt to my impression of his comment?
Mind reading (“It’s an attempt to signal you hold some sort of moral high ground”) isn’t what you do in tell culture. The idea that you are “telling the truth” when you are mind reading seems strange to me.
In contrast when ozziegooen says I do X because I expect Y then it makes sense to assume that his explanation of his own motivation is correct. Unless of course, you think he’s lying about his motivation (maybe because he would actually believe ¬Y, and has another reason).
I believe that operating from tell culture when interacting on LessWrong is fine. Yes, that will mean that people who are socialized in guess culture will find some things rude or unpleasant but that doesn’t justify LessWrong switching to ask culture norms.
Jordan Peterson’s rules for life are about taking responsibility for your own life. It seems like you advocate here that other people are supposed to take responsibilty for you feeling offended.
I seems to me like you are violating the rule you appear when you advocate here if you state that ozziegooen should have self censored themselves instead of truthfully expressing what he believed to be true.
My response is fine in tell culture too no? I’m stating what I believe to be true of their comment. Why is it ok for ozziegooen to speak truthfully in his comment but it’s not ok for me to reply truthfully wrt to my impression of his comment?
Mind reading (“It’s an attempt to signal you hold some sort of moral high ground”) isn’t what you do in tell culture. The idea that you are “telling the truth” when you are mind reading seems strange to me.
In contrast when ozziegooen says I do X because I expect Y then it makes sense to assume that his explanation of his own motivation is correct. Unless of course, you think he’s lying about his motivation (maybe because he would actually believe ¬Y, and has another reason).
You know, I wrote a whole reply but your comment isn’t worth responding to.