First off, I have nothing to do with Berkeley, and I’m just a newcomer to the community.
But your post leaves me with multiple questions:
First off, what are you trying to achieve? What I could guess: try to attract the attention of the Berkeley people in another fashion, after talking to some of them in the flesh already. Another option: warn the rational community at large that this kind of thing can happen and attention must be paid.
But what kind of things? That’s really what I am missing from this story. Someone was “giving you bad vibes” and “their practices was giving you the jeebies”. Could you not expand on that without deanonymizing anyone? I mean, the people you’ve complained to already know who you are, so this is not a concern. If the “bad practice” will deanonymize the person, then maybe it’s not a concern to them that this thing stay hidden (just don’t name them).
As for body language, I can imagine the following scenario: if someone told me that a friend was bad along some axis and that I had never noticed that personally, it’s likely my body would instinctively react in the same fashion. Nevertheless it doesn’t mean I would dismiss you out of hand after hearing you out.
How far have you taken these discussions? After making the nature of the problem clear, what was these people’s response? Your post makes it seem as though, feeling the problem wasn’t taken seriously, you didn’t press the issue.
The first point is a good question. The goal is personal: feeling out whether such thoughts find a place in the LW space, and if so, engaging with this community more :). Altenately, it’s a reflection/”blog post”, whose partial intention is to throw some thoughts out there and hear alternative perspectives that may cause me to update.
The second point: yeah, that’s a great point and sadly I don’t know how to elaborate effectively. I’ll think on it and update this comment if that changes. Thanks for the point on body language—that’s a good one.
As for discussions, I once had a fairly long 3-hour one with some pillars of the community on this, which didn’t feel like it resolved anything. It was nice that the discussion happened at all, though.
First off, I have nothing to do with Berkeley, and I’m just a newcomer to the community.
But your post leaves me with multiple questions:
First off, what are you trying to achieve? What I could guess: try to attract the attention of the Berkeley people in another fashion, after talking to some of them in the flesh already. Another option: warn the rational community at large that this kind of thing can happen and attention must be paid.
But what kind of things? That’s really what I am missing from this story. Someone was “giving you bad vibes” and “their practices was giving you the jeebies”. Could you not expand on that without deanonymizing anyone? I mean, the people you’ve complained to already know who you are, so this is not a concern. If the “bad practice” will deanonymize the person, then maybe it’s not a concern to them that this thing stay hidden (just don’t name them).
As for body language, I can imagine the following scenario: if someone told me that a friend was bad along some axis and that I had never noticed that personally, it’s likely my body would instinctively react in the same fashion. Nevertheless it doesn’t mean I would dismiss you out of hand after hearing you out.
How far have you taken these discussions? After making the nature of the problem clear, what was these people’s response? Your post makes it seem as though, feeling the problem wasn’t taken seriously, you didn’t press the issue.
The first point is a good question. The goal is personal: feeling out whether such thoughts find a place in the LW space, and if so, engaging with this community more :). Altenately, it’s a reflection/”blog post”, whose partial intention is to throw some thoughts out there and hear alternative perspectives that may cause me to update.
The second point: yeah, that’s a great point and sadly I don’t know how to elaborate effectively. I’ll think on it and update this comment if that changes. Thanks for the point on body language—that’s a good one.
As for discussions, I once had a fairly long 3-hour one with some pillars of the community on this, which didn’t feel like it resolved anything. It was nice that the discussion happened at all, though.