I share the sense that something pretty substantial changed with MIRI in ~2017 and that something important got lost when that happened. I share some of the sense that people’s thinking about timelines is confused, though I do think overall pretty short timelines are justified (though mine are on the longer end of what MIRI people tend to think, though much shorter than yours, IIRC). I think you are saying some important things about the funding landscape, and have been pretty sad about the dynamics here as well, though I think the actual situation is pretty messy and some funders are really quite pro-critique, and some others seem to me to be much more optimizing for something like the brand of the EA-coalition.
I feel like this topic may deserve a top-level post (rather than an N-th level comment here).
EDIT: I specifically meant the “MIRI in ~2017” topic, although I am generally in favor of extracting all other topics from Jessica’s post in a way that would be easier for me to read.
I share the sense that something pretty substantial changed with MIRI in ~2017 and that something important got lost when that happened. I share some of the sense that people’s thinking about timelines is confused, though I do think overall pretty short timelines are justified (though mine are on the longer end of what MIRI people tend to think, though much shorter than yours, IIRC). I think you are saying some important things about the funding landscape, and have been pretty sad about the dynamics here as well, though I think the actual situation is pretty messy and some funders are really quite pro-critique, and some others seem to me to be much more optimizing for something like the brand of the EA-coalition.
I feel like this topic may deserve a top-level post (rather than an N-th level comment here).
EDIT: I specifically meant the “MIRI in ~2017” topic, although I am generally in favor of extracting all other topics from Jessica’s post in a way that would be easier for me to read.