Actually, I would argue that it’s not good regardless of what the pill does.
Do you believe that about cancer as well? Or merely about grumpiness?
What subjects you to social attack is having been diagnosed with a mental illness. [..] It’s not what you can do—it’s what can be done to you.
I would similarly strongly endorse a social shift that stops attacking me for being diagnosed, rather than blame the diagnosis for the social attacks.
If I were subject to social attacks for being diagnosed with cancer, would you recommend we stop issuing cancer diagnoses, or recommend we stop attacking people diagnosed with cancer? I would recommend the latter. I feel the same way about mental illnesses.
A common description of the effects of SSRI anti-depressants on some people is that they make you feel completely indifferent inside. Sure, you don’t want to kill yourself any more, but you don’t want ANYTHING
I can’t tell whether you consider that an example of “without too many side-effects,” (in which case I simply disagree with you; flattened affect is an unacceptable side-effect here) or whether you somehow missed that phrase when you quoted it (which seems unlikely barring seriously motivated cognition).
Regardless, I agree that if the pill makes me less grumpy with lots of side-effects (for example, completely flattening affect as you describe), that’s far less clear evidence than in the case I actually described which you quote.
You seem to think that having cancer and being grumpy are very similar conditions (in the context of discussing medicalization). To me that doesn’t look like a serious assertion to engage with.
And evidently you don’t consider anything else I said worth engaging with even to the extent of dismissing it as not worth engaging with, either. So, shall we drop this here?
Do you believe that about cancer as well? Or merely about grumpiness?
I would similarly strongly endorse a social shift that stops attacking me for being diagnosed, rather than blame the diagnosis for the social attacks.
If I were subject to social attacks for being diagnosed with cancer, would you recommend we stop issuing cancer diagnoses, or recommend we stop attacking people diagnosed with cancer? I would recommend the latter. I feel the same way about mental illnesses.
I can’t tell whether you consider that an example of “without too many side-effects,” (in which case I simply disagree with you; flattened affect is an unacceptable side-effect here) or whether you somehow missed that phrase when you quoted it (which seems unlikely barring seriously motivated cognition).
Regardless, I agree that if the pill makes me less grumpy with lots of side-effects (for example, completely flattening affect as you describe), that’s far less clear evidence than in the case I actually described which you quote.
I would similarly
You seem to think that having cancer and being grumpy are very similar conditions (in the context of discussing medicalization). To me that doesn’t look like a serious assertion to engage with.
And evidently you don’t consider anything else I said worth engaging with even to the extent of dismissing it as not worth engaging with, either. So, shall we drop this here?