For a simple counter-example, conservatives tend to love law and order, libertarians—not so much.
True, there are some non-religious issues which separate conservatives and libertarians, but someone doesn’t have to believe in every libertarian issue to be a libertarian. Are there enough prominent non-religious issues such that someone who takes a conservative position on only the non-religious issues would be considered closer to the conservative side than to the libertarian one?
A common simplistic understanding of libertarians is “conservative economically, liberal socially”, but even then you don’t get there from conservatives just by removing religion.
Don’t you? Most issues where libertarians are socially liberal have the conservative side heavily influenced by religion.
Let’s check internationally. In Japan, for example, religion (Shinto and/or Buddhism) is not a prominent factor in sociopolitical issues. So does this mean that Japanese conservative politicians are essentially libertarians? Doesn’t look like that to me.
In Japan, Shinto is associated with Japanese nationalism. Just because it doesn’t affect people’s views on gay marriage doesn’t mean that it has no effect on politics.
Recall that the original issue was whether libertarians are just conservatives less religion. Are you applying this claim globally or you think it’s purely a US thing?
Going back up a thread a bit
Most issues where libertarians are socially liberal have the conservative side heavily influenced by religion.
I suggested law and order as a conservative issue. You think it’s “heavily influenced by religion”?
True, there are some non-religious issues which separate conservatives and libertarians, but someone doesn’t have to believe in every libertarian issue to be a libertarian. Are there enough prominent non-religious issues such that someone who takes a conservative position on only the non-religious issues would be considered closer to the conservative side than to the libertarian one?
Don’t you? Most issues where libertarians are socially liberal have the conservative side heavily influenced by religion.
Let’s check internationally. In Japan, for example, religion (Shinto and/or Buddhism) is not a prominent factor in sociopolitical issues. So does this mean that Japanese conservative politicians are essentially libertarians? Doesn’t look like that to me.
In Japan, Shinto is associated with Japanese nationalism. Just because it doesn’t affect people’s views on gay marriage doesn’t mean that it has no effect on politics.
Recall that the original issue was whether libertarians are just conservatives less religion. Are you applying this claim globally or you think it’s purely a US thing?
Going back up a thread a bit
I suggested law and order as a conservative issue. You think it’s “heavily influenced by religion”?
“Most” is not “every issue”.