WRT CEV: What happens if my CEV is different than yours? What’s the plan for resolving differences between different folks’ CEVs? Does the FAI put us all in our own private boxes where we each think we’re getting our CEVs, take a majority vote, or what?
I’ve asked this several times before. As far as I can make out, no (published) text answers this question. (If I’m wrong I am very interested in learning about it.)
The CEV doc assumes without any proof, not just that we (or a superintelligent FAI) will find a reconciling strategy for CEV, but that such a strategy exists to be found. It assumes that there is a unique such strategy that can be defined in some way that everyone could agree about. This seems to either invite a recursion (everyone does not agree about metaethics, CEV is needed to resolve this, but we don’t agree about the CEV algorithm or inputs); or else to involve moral realism.
Individuals have Volitions and (hopefully) Extrapolatable Volitions. If many people have EVs that ‘agree’, they interfere constructively (like waves), and that becomes part of the group’s Coherant Extrapolated Volition. If they ‘disagree’ on some issue, they interfere distructively, and CEV has nothing to say on the issue.
(I’d be nice to be able to explain this by saying that individuals have EVs but not CEVs, excelent clearly they have a degenerate case of CEV if they have an EV)
Then the “coherent” qualifier does not apply, does it? Are you asking how to construct CEV from the multitude of PEVs (P for personal)?
Does the FAI put us all in our own private boxes
Presumably those folks whose PEV does not mind boxing will get boxed, and the rest will have to be reconciled into the CEV, if possible. Or maybe commensurate PEVs get boxed together into partial CEV worlds.
The hard part is what to do with those whose PEV is incompatible with other people having different ideas from theirs. Eh, maybe not that hard. Trickery or termination is always an option when nothing better is available.
WRT CEV: What happens if my CEV is different than yours? What’s the plan for resolving differences between different folks’ CEVs? Does the FAI put us all in our own private boxes where we each think we’re getting our CEVs, take a majority vote, or what?
I’ve asked this several times before. As far as I can make out, no (published) text answers this question. (If I’m wrong I am very interested in learning about it.)
The CEV doc assumes without any proof, not just that we (or a superintelligent FAI) will find a reconciling strategy for CEV, but that such a strategy exists to be found. It assumes that there is a unique such strategy that can be defined in some way that everyone could agree about. This seems to either invite a recursion (everyone does not agree about metaethics, CEV is needed to resolve this, but we don’t agree about the CEV algorithm or inputs); or else to involve moral realism.
Individuals have Volitions and (hopefully) Extrapolatable Volitions. If many people have EVs that ‘agree’, they interfere constructively (like waves), and that becomes part of the group’s Coherant Extrapolated Volition. If they ‘disagree’ on some issue, they interfere distructively, and CEV has nothing to say on the issue.
(I’d be nice to be able to explain this by saying that individuals have EVs but not CEVs, excelent clearly they have a degenerate case of CEV if they have an EV)
It needn’t be as degenerate as all that, actually, depending on just how coherent the mechanisms generating an individual’s volition(s) is/are.
Then the “coherent” qualifier does not apply, does it? Are you asking how to construct CEV from the multitude of PEVs (P for personal)?
Presumably those folks whose PEV does not mind boxing will get boxed, and the rest will have to be reconciled into the CEV, if possible. Or maybe commensurate PEVs get boxed together into partial CEV worlds.
The hard part is what to do with those whose PEV is incompatible with other people having different ideas from theirs. Eh, maybe not that hard. Trickery or termination is always an option when nothing better is available.