I think this post introduced an important new angle for this, which is not about face, but instead about “I was actually just trying to solve a different problem than the one you’re giving advice about, and it is disruptive to my problem-solving process for you to jam your frame into it. This is bad a) because it’s annoying and time-wasting, and b) because there is something delicate about my thought process, and your frame is sort of violating (albeit maybe in a minor, non-traumatizing way)
(In addition to this not-seeming-true-across-the-board… also, literally nobody has ever made this claim to me. The entire reason I’m hypothesizing it is because this post suggested it, and it made sense given my model of how my/friends’ cognition seems to work. So, IMO the slightly-aggro comment here is just basically wrong? Unless you’ve specifically seen people claim this?)
It does seem like this is pretty different from losing face, and having one word for both of them isn’t obviously the best way to carve up concept space.
I think this post introduced an important new angle for this, which is not about face, but instead about “I was actually just trying to solve a different problem than the one you’re giving advice about, and it is disruptive to my problem-solving process for you to jam your frame into it. This is bad a) because it’s annoying and time-wasting, and b) because there is something delicate about my thought process, and your frame is sort of violating (albeit maybe in a minor, non-traumatizing way)
That is what someone might claim, yes, to avoid losing face by too visibly caring about losing face or attempting to manipulate it.
Sure, that’s a thing that can happen. I’m moderately confident the other thing is a relatively common thing to happen as well.
(In addition to this not-seeming-true-across-the-board… also, literally nobody has ever made this claim to me. The entire reason I’m hypothesizing it is because this post suggested it, and it made sense given my model of how my/friends’ cognition seems to work. So, IMO the slightly-aggro comment here is just basically wrong? Unless you’ve specifically seen people claim this?)
It does seem like this is pretty different from losing face, and having one word for both of them isn’t obviously the best way to carve up concept space.