FWIW, I also thought HPMOR.com was a better reading experience for HPMOR than current LW is. LW is optimized for a bunch of stuff that HPMOR.com isn’t optimized for. I hope we can get the old site back up.
While I’m feeling a bit miffed that I’m getting a vibe that people at mad at the LessWrong team for a thing that’s, like, totally not our fault, I do wanna go on record as “I actively prefer the LessWrong version.”
It scores at least as well for me on core-reading-experience. I don’t have any issue reading the text. I like that the https://www.lesswrong.com/hpmor page has some pretty pictures, has a progress bar so you can see all your reading progress at once, and you can easily see the spots you haven’t read yet (both in the simple bar at the top and in the table-of-contents-ish thing on the rest of the page), and
(FYI it’s not fully true you need to click back to see the list of posts – if you hover over the book title at the top of a post page, you see a dropdown list of the posts in that book. It’s true you don’t get the entire list of posts but if you’re navigating to different books I think seeing the higher-order structure is kinda useful anyway)
And also obviously it’s bad to not have authors notes. (Even if/when hpmor.com goes live again it’s plausible we should import those too and make a final sequence that’s just those)
I am not mad at the LessWrong team. The reason I framed the title as an accusation was because I figured it was likely since I was sent to your website that you were responsible in some way, or at least were aware of what was going on. I now understand I was mistaken.
As for “improvements” if/when hpmor.com comes back up, I would like to note that I am against them, for the same reasons described in the post. I don’t think it’s obvious at all that some change to the old site would not be bad, at least from the perspective of people who prefer the old site.
I meant the improvements for lesswrong.com’s general functionality, not hpmor.com (not sure if we were on the same page about that). Like, one of lesswrong’s main jobs is to be good at longform reading, and if there are ways it can be straightforwardly improved at that we should do so.
LW is optimized for a bunch of stuff that HPMOR.com isn’t optimized for.
Yes, exactly. LW.com is certainly better at being LW.com than HPMOR.com would be! Single-purpose tools are often better for that purpose than things designed for other purposes entirely…
I hope we can get the old site back up.
This probably won’t be needed, but just in case it is—I’d be happy to host it.
I’ve pulled down a static mirror from archive.org and modified a couple pieces which depended on server-side implementation to use a javascript version, most notably the chapter dropdown. In the unlikely case it’s useful, ping me.
FWIW, I also thought HPMOR.com was a better reading experience for HPMOR than current LW is. LW is optimized for a bunch of stuff that HPMOR.com isn’t optimized for. I hope we can get the old site back up.
While I’m feeling a bit miffed that I’m getting a vibe that people at mad at the LessWrong team for a thing that’s, like, totally not our fault, I do wanna go on record as “I actively prefer the LessWrong version.”
It scores at least as well for me on core-reading-experience. I don’t have any issue reading the text. I like that the https://www.lesswrong.com/hpmor page has some pretty pictures, has a progress bar so you can see all your reading progress at once, and you can easily see the spots you haven’t read yet (both in the simple bar at the top and in the table-of-contents-ish thing on the rest of the page), and
(FYI it’s not fully true you need to click back to see the list of posts – if you hover over the book title at the top of a post page, you see a dropdown list of the posts in that book. It’s true you don’t get the entire list of posts but if you’re navigating to different books I think seeing the higher-order structure is kinda useful anyway)
There are a couple areas that seem like they could be improved (it does seem reasonable to make it one-click to see the full library page, maybe if you click the book title at the top it should take you to https://www.lesswrong.com/hpmor, to the relevant anchor-title, instead of https://www.lesswrong.com/s/EBuZhwCrYuJGp7ax4.
And also obviously it’s bad to not have authors notes. (Even if/when hpmor.com goes live again it’s plausible we should import those too and make a final sequence that’s just those)
I am not mad at the LessWrong team. The reason I framed the title as an accusation was because I figured it was likely since I was sent to your website that you were responsible in some way, or at least were aware of what was going on. I now understand I was mistaken.
As for “improvements” if/when hpmor.com comes back up, I would like to note that I am against them, for the same reasons described in the post. I don’t think it’s obvious at all that some change to the old site would not be bad, at least from the perspective of people who prefer the old site.
I meant the improvements for lesswrong.com’s general functionality, not hpmor.com (not sure if we were on the same page about that). Like, one of lesswrong’s main jobs is to be good at longform reading, and if there are ways it can be straightforwardly improved at that we should do so.
We were not on the same page. I thought you were suggesting changes to the new re-hosted version of hpmor.com. Thanks for clarifying.
Yes, exactly. LW.com is certainly better at being LW.com than HPMOR.com would be! Single-purpose tools are often better for that purpose than things designed for other purposes entirely…
This probably won’t be needed, but just in case it is—I’d be happy to host it.
I’ve pulled down a static mirror from archive.org and modified a couple pieces which depended on server-side implementation to use a javascript version, most notably the chapter dropdown. In the unlikely case it’s useful, ping me.