instead of saying that something’s intrinsically difficult to communicate, say that most people suck at communicating it.
Why? It’s not what’s referenced in chaotic inversion—that’s “chaos might actually be ignorance.” Some things really do take more work to communicate than others, especially skillsets that will be different from person to person.
True, I probably should have been more specific, and it’s even worse than your examples because there is no “this exact motion,” and I am the swim teacher who says “see that bunch of people swimming over there? Try and do what they’re doing for an hour.”
I’ll add a list of practice items in order of scariness, but I suspect that RawPower also could have made a similar list, and the trouble is more devoting the effort to doing them.
Real-world practice ideas, in rough order of scariness:
If invited to something, go. Join a club. Join a club that will require you to interact with normal people. Play a drinking game. Friend on facebook someone you know who hosts a lot of events (can find out by asking). If in a room full of people, strike up three conversations within the next hour. Ask an acquaintance to go grab lunch with you. Talk with them. If you’re walking in the same direction as someone on the sidewalk, strike up a conversation.
By the end of a practice conversation you should find out their name, what they do, whether they are enjoying the conversation (do not actually ask—use detective skills), and what their favorite dinosaur is (or a similar detail). Optionally you could find out about their general social lives, recent entertainment they’ve attended, if they have any big plans for the future, and if they have heard of [thing you like]. Extra credit—make up new things to find out that you think people would find interesting if someone asked them.
Invite several acquaintances out for lunch or dinner. Most will say no. Some will say yes. Host a dinner party. Get out on the dancefloor and do what you see other people doing. Invite one to five acquaintances over to do an activity such as a videogame, a board game, or watching a movie. Flirt with someone attractive. Make eye contact, make jokes, touch a bit more than normal. Ask someone to dance. Dance. Ask to trade cell phone numbers with someone. Call them a day to a week later with an invitation. Ask an attractive person on a date. Take them to a restaurant, or to some sort of special event like a concert, or just cook a nice dinner and invite them over for a movie. Communicate it with your words or with your body language that you want to kiss someone right now. If they go along, kiss them. Communicate to someone that you want to have sex with them in the next ten minutes or so. If they go along, do it. Note: get expectations for sex and kissing from observing other people, helpful internet sites. Romantic movies and porn can be used, but only to extrapolate from, not to actually follow (especially with porn).
Apply the chaotic inversion principle again. It’s more likely that you don’t know the required exact motion, but still try to teach people using your vague understanding.
Why? Going back to proofs, it’s reasonable that there’s some optimal proof-finding algorithm given the set of proofs you want to solve (equivalent to knowing what social situations you will be in). But if you don’t know the problems, is there an efficient one-size fits all algorithm that isn’t basically “find the right algorithm in your situation and then execute it?” Does there have to be?
Why? It’s not what’s referenced in chaotic inversion—that’s “chaos might actually be ignorance.” Some things really do take more work to communicate than others, especially skillsets that will be different from person to person.
True, I probably should have been more specific, and it’s even worse than your examples because there is no “this exact motion,” and I am the swim teacher who says “see that bunch of people swimming over there? Try and do what they’re doing for an hour.”
I’ll add a list of practice items in order of scariness, but I suspect that RawPower also could have made a similar list, and the trouble is more devoting the effort to doing them.
Real-world practice ideas, in rough order of scariness:
If invited to something, go.
Join a club.
Join a club that will require you to interact with normal people.
Play a drinking game.
Friend on facebook someone you know who hosts a lot of events (can find out by asking).
If in a room full of people, strike up three conversations within the next hour.
Ask an acquaintance to go grab lunch with you. Talk with them.
If you’re walking in the same direction as someone on the sidewalk, strike up a conversation.
By the end of a practice conversation you should find out their name, what they do, whether they are enjoying the conversation (do not actually ask—use detective skills), and what their favorite dinosaur is (or a similar detail). Optionally you could find out about their general social lives, recent entertainment they’ve attended, if they have any big plans for the future, and if they have heard of [thing you like]. Extra credit—make up new things to find out that you think people would find interesting if someone asked them.
Invite several acquaintances out for lunch or dinner. Most will say no. Some will say yes.
Host a dinner party.
Get out on the dancefloor and do what you see other people doing.
Invite one to five acquaintances over to do an activity such as a videogame, a board game, or watching a movie.
Flirt with someone attractive. Make eye contact, make jokes, touch a bit more than normal.
Ask someone to dance. Dance.
Ask to trade cell phone numbers with someone. Call them a day to a week later with an invitation.
Ask an attractive person on a date. Take them to a restaurant, or to some sort of special event like a concert, or just cook a nice dinner and invite them over for a movie.
Communicate it with your words or with your body language that you want to kiss someone right now. If they go along, kiss them.
Communicate to someone that you want to have sex with them in the next ten minutes or so. If they go along, do it. Note: get expectations for sex and kissing from observing other people, helpful internet sites. Romantic movies and porn can be used, but only to extrapolate from, not to actually follow (especially with porn).
Apply the chaotic inversion principle again. It’s more likely that you don’t know the required exact motion, but still try to teach people using your vague understanding.
Why? Going back to proofs, it’s reasonable that there’s some optimal proof-finding algorithm given the set of proofs you want to solve (equivalent to knowing what social situations you will be in). But if you don’t know the problems, is there an efficient one-size fits all algorithm that isn’t basically “find the right algorithm in your situation and then execute it?” Does there have to be?