Good point, Tarleton—although I’m still hard-pressed to think of a better example that isn’t directly a religious belief. If you only use the obvious religious examples, people will fall into the standard trap of thinking they’ve achieved perfection as rationalists because they’re not religious—I wanted to use something that would actually strike a sympathetic chord and let people see how the belief-as-attire effect extends beyond religion. Got a better suggestion?
Vassar, also a good point, although I’m skeptical that I would have difficulty empathizing—these are humans we’re talking about, not aliens, and the WTC hijackers were mostly educated Saudi Arabians, not Yamomano. They saw themselves as heroes in the support of causes, such as sexual decency = woman’s de-emancipation, which are not American causes; they believed and maybe even anticipated 72 virgins; they fought in guardianship of ancient perfection; they carried out the will of God revealed in perfect scripture. None of this strikes me as a significant barrier to understanding. Can you say specifically what you think presents the barrier to empathy?
You want some belief-as-attire that LW people wear? How about some of the things people say “as Singularitarians”, i.e. not because they really have thought the matter through themselves, but because it is the standard position of Singularitarians.
(It’s not always easy to distinguish, granted. You could believe in cryonics because you really have evidence to suggest that this is the best use of resources… or you could believe in cryonics because that’s “what Singularitarians believe”.)
Good point, Tarleton—although I’m still hard-pressed to think of a better example that isn’t directly a religious belief. If you only use the obvious religious examples, people will fall into the standard trap of thinking they’ve achieved perfection as rationalists because they’re not religious—I wanted to use something that would actually strike a sympathetic chord and let people see how the belief-as-attire effect extends beyond religion. Got a better suggestion?
Vassar, also a good point, although I’m skeptical that I would have difficulty empathizing—these are humans we’re talking about, not aliens, and the WTC hijackers were mostly educated Saudi Arabians, not Yamomano. They saw themselves as heroes in the support of causes, such as sexual decency = woman’s de-emancipation, which are not American causes; they believed and maybe even anticipated 72 virgins; they fought in guardianship of ancient perfection; they carried out the will of God revealed in perfect scripture. None of this strikes me as a significant barrier to understanding. Can you say specifically what you think presents the barrier to empathy?
You want some belief-as-attire that LW people wear? How about some of the things people say “as Singularitarians”, i.e. not because they really have thought the matter through themselves, but because it is the standard position of Singularitarians.
(It’s not always easy to distinguish, granted. You could believe in cryonics because you really have evidence to suggest that this is the best use of resources… or you could believe in cryonics because that’s “what Singularitarians believe”.)