ChristianKl comments on Secret Rationality Base in Europe

[ChristianKl]

Yes, Berlin is the most obvious candidate at this point, and it seems strong on most fronts except climate and prices.

Prices aren’t bad compared to other big cities.

You would need around 3,087.02€ (2,438.53£) in Berlin to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 4,500.00£ in London

You would need around 3,073.39€ (2,427.76£) in Berlin to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 3,600.00£ in Oxford

You would need around 3,084.93€ in Berlin to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 3,400.00€ in Vienna

You would need around 3,093.66€ (3,484.64$) in Berlin to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 6,000.00$ in Berkeley, CA

You would need around 3,077.66€ (3,342.51Fr.) in Berlin to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 7,300.00Fr. in Zurich

It’s not anymore the price level it had when Tim Ferriss wrote the 4HW and recommended digital nomads to move to Berlin to have it super cheap, but it’s still relatively cheap.

Which city do you consider suitable that is cheaper than Berlin?

In most cities I think you couldn’t run an event like the LWCW for 150€.

[SquirrelInHell]

Acknowledged, but you are comparing only to famous and expensive cities.

So to make the ranking more fair—e.g. I’ve been living in Kraków which is more than 40% cheaper than Berlin in every aspect (though I’m not recommending it for a rationality hub) http://​​www.numbeo.com/​​cost-of-living/​​compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Poland&city1=Berlin&city2=Krakow+%28Cracow%29

And I’ll be going on a 3-month vacation on Malta, which is also visibly cheaper: http://​​www.numbeo.com/​​cost-of-living/​​compare_cities.jsp?country1=Germany&country2=Malta&city1=Berlin&city2=Birkirkara

[ChristianKl]

A lot of the people on LW are programmers and thus want to be employeed by software companies. Those generally exist in big cities. Big cities also tend to draw a lot of diverse ideas.

I can talk to someone in Berkely about Circling/​Authentic Relating because there are Circling Events in Berlin and there are Circling/​Authentic events in Berkely.

I haven’t checked but I wouldn’t expect to find Circling in Kraków or Malta.

Malta happens to have some interesting properties but I would guess that it would take significant financial resources to build something there.

[Good_Burning_Plastic]

Thanks for that site!