I don’t know the LessWrong-like answer, so I can only offer you the human, empathic answer.
Based on the phrasing of your question:
whether someone born a male but who identifies as female is indeed female
and the fact that you have posted it to LessWrong, I understand it to be a question about constructing a useful and consistent model of the human condition, rather than about respecting an actual or hypothetical human being. If so, I think you are asking the wrong question.
Your students want to learn from you, but on a more basic level, they want to feel safe with you. If you have a trans student, or a student with a trans friend/relative, she is likely to take your answer to this question very personally. Your choice boils down to whether you offer a personal welcome (by recognizing your student’s identity) or a personal affront (by implying that you have more authority than she does to determine who she “really is”).
I should add that it is a common failure mode for humans, when confronted with a counterexample to their existing model of the human condition, to insist that their model is correct and that the fellow human they are dealing with is a bad data point. As well as rude and demeaning, this approach is irrational and intellectually dishonest.
a counterexample to their existing model of the human condition
I’m not sure how this could be counted as a counterexample to anyone’s model. Presumably most people would agree that there are people who are confused about their sexuality. It would only be a counterexample to that model if the student was correct, but whether or not the student is correct is precisely what we are discussing.
If James agreed with the student, this would not be a counterexample to his beliefs, and if he disagrees with the student, it he would not agree that they represented a counterexample to the model.
Presumably most people would agree that there are people who are confused about their sexuality.
“Confused about their sexuality” is a particularly uncharitable characterization of a transgender person. Many are not confused, rather absolutely certain. Unless you’re using the term “confused” as a polite way of indicating that you believe such a person to be mistaken or delusional, in which case you would be begging the question.
By the way, gender is not the same thing as sexuality.
It would only be a counterexample to that model if the student was correct, but whether or not the student is correct is precisely what we are discussing.
If one models gender as a boolean switch that can be set to either “male” or “female”, and encounters an individual who has a combination of “male” and “female” characteristics, their model may not accommodate the new observation. I have watched people (who I previously considered fairly sane) break into a yelling fit when confronted with someone undergoing a gender transition, demanding to know their “real” gender and hurling insults when the response was not what they expected.
No, I am explaining how the appearance of transgender people is consistent with the conservative view: they are simply confused. I am not assuming anything.
If one models gender as a boolean switch that can be set to either “male” or “female”, and encounters an individual who has a combination of “male” and “female” characteristics, their model may not accommodate the new observation.
Unfortunately for this line of argument, there are a whole lot of things one can say that may cause personal affronts, some of which are essential as part of some debates and some of which may even express factual truths. If they are generalities, they might not even be disprovable by examples of individual humans (such as statements that some class of humans is more likely to have lower scores on IQ tests).
I don’t know the LessWrong-like answer, so I can only offer you the human, empathic answer.
Based on the phrasing of your question:
and the fact that you have posted it to LessWrong, I understand it to be a question about constructing a useful and consistent model of the human condition, rather than about respecting an actual or hypothetical human being. If so, I think you are asking the wrong question.
Your students want to learn from you, but on a more basic level, they want to feel safe with you. If you have a trans student, or a student with a trans friend/relative, she is likely to take your answer to this question very personally. Your choice boils down to whether you offer a personal welcome (by recognizing your student’s identity) or a personal affront (by implying that you have more authority than she does to determine who she “really is”).
I should add that it is a common failure mode for humans, when confronted with a counterexample to their existing model of the human condition, to insist that their model is correct and that the fellow human they are dealing with is a bad data point. As well as rude and demeaning, this approach is irrational and intellectually dishonest.
I’m not sure how this could be counted as a counterexample to anyone’s model. Presumably most people would agree that there are people who are confused about their sexuality. It would only be a counterexample to that model if the student was correct, but whether or not the student is correct is precisely what we are discussing.
If James agreed with the student, this would not be a counterexample to his beliefs, and if he disagrees with the student, it he would not agree that they represented a counterexample to the model.
“Confused about their sexuality” is a particularly uncharitable characterization of a transgender person. Many are not confused, rather absolutely certain. Unless you’re using the term “confused” as a polite way of indicating that you believe such a person to be mistaken or delusional, in which case you would be begging the question.
By the way, gender is not the same thing as sexuality.
If one models gender as a boolean switch that can be set to either “male” or “female”, and encounters an individual who has a combination of “male” and “female” characteristics, their model may not accommodate the new observation. I have watched people (who I previously considered fairly sane) break into a yelling fit when confronted with someone undergoing a gender transition, demanding to know their “real” gender and hurling insults when the response was not what they expected.
No, I am explaining how the appearance of transgender people is consistent with the conservative view: they are simply confused. I am not assuming anything.
The point being that that conclusion is contrary to the experience of the people involved.
So did the person have a Y chromosome or not?
This misses the point. There are other aspects that in a subset of the population get more complicated and not so clear cut.
Unfortunately for this line of argument, there are a whole lot of things one can say that may cause personal affronts, some of which are essential as part of some debates and some of which may even express factual truths. If they are generalities, they might not even be disprovable by examples of individual humans (such as statements that some class of humans is more likely to have lower scores on IQ tests).