If we’re going to be logically examining at the finer points of cannibalism, I’d like to point out that at least in principle someone might have been fully swallowed, and thus, by common usage, eaten, while retaining the ability to enjoy things, so long as their brain hadn’t been digested yet; which is not to say that such a person would be in any condition to participate in online discussions.
Have you read Eliezer’s short fiction “Three Worlds Collide” it isn’t an example of people enjoying being eaten but the ‘Babyeater’ species has brains of crystal that take on the order of a month to be digested, during most of which period they are conscious.
Before the arrival of the superhappies, my preferred strategy would have been to explain to the babyeaters that we had made some initial experiments in baby-eating but been blinded to the underlying goodness of the act for reasons of economic expediency. I would then demand that the babyeaters—all of them, on all their ships and worlds—hand over all the children from the current generation who would otherwise have been eaten, so that all of us humans could figure out how to do it properly as soon as possible. If they balk at the logistics of such a sudden, massive tributary payment, I would point out the horrible possibility that entire worlds—billions of sapients—might otherwise carry on for years in ignorance of the proper practice of baby-eating; if that doesn’t work, I’ll politely remind them that we’ve got overwhelming military superiority and as such they are in no position to dictate terms. Nobody starves, because baby-eating has become metabolically redundant, and the children thus abducted are raised in a non-baby-eating culture. Upon returning, they could convince their parents—by sheer weight of numbers—that this whole baby-eating thing was just an honest mistake.
Once the superhappies show up, that plan goes out the window. Since we have, in any sane game-theoretical sense, established peaceful relations with the babyeaters, shared most of our military secrets with them in fact, an attack on them could be interpreted as an attack on us, and should be discouraged accordingly. Anyone with a competent lawyer would know better than to identify themselves as an authorized representative of all of Humanity, and given a moments’ consideration, remember how people have responded to “feelings greater than love” in the past.
I apologize for the presumption.
If we’re going to be logically examining at the finer points of cannibalism, I’d like to point out that at least in principle someone might have been fully swallowed, and thus, by common usage, eaten, while retaining the ability to enjoy things, so long as their brain hadn’t been digested yet; which is not to say that such a person would be in any condition to participate in online discussions.
Full agreement. :)
Have you read Eliezer’s short fiction “Three Worlds Collide” it isn’t an example of people enjoying being eaten but the ‘Babyeater’ species has brains of crystal that take on the order of a month to be digested, during most of which period they are conscious.
I have.
Before the arrival of the superhappies, my preferred strategy would have been to explain to the babyeaters that we had made some initial experiments in baby-eating but been blinded to the underlying goodness of the act for reasons of economic expediency. I would then demand that the babyeaters—all of them, on all their ships and worlds—hand over all the children from the current generation who would otherwise have been eaten, so that all of us humans could figure out how to do it properly as soon as possible. If they balk at the logistics of such a sudden, massive tributary payment, I would point out the horrible possibility that entire worlds—billions of sapients—might otherwise carry on for years in ignorance of the proper practice of baby-eating; if that doesn’t work, I’ll politely remind them that we’ve got overwhelming military superiority and as such they are in no position to dictate terms. Nobody starves, because baby-eating has become metabolically redundant, and the children thus abducted are raised in a non-baby-eating culture. Upon returning, they could convince their parents—by sheer weight of numbers—that this whole baby-eating thing was just an honest mistake.
Once the superhappies show up, that plan goes out the window. Since we have, in any sane game-theoretical sense, established peaceful relations with the babyeaters, shared most of our military secrets with them in fact, an attack on them could be interpreted as an attack on us, and should be discouraged accordingly. Anyone with a competent lawyer would know better than to identify themselves as an authorized representative of all of Humanity, and given a moments’ consideration, remember how people have responded to “feelings greater than love” in the past.