What Jimbo does these days may bear little resemblance to what he was doing in those crucial years 2005-2009 where the die of WP editing culture was cast (in a different sense of ‘die’, if you follow).
“may bear” is literally meaningless. We have every edit of the megabytes of tedious and querulous on-wiki discussion about the content rules; if you’re trying to assert there’s evidence for Christian’s claims, then referencing to the diff is eminently possible. You were there and so was I, it’d be long-winded but shouldn’t be impossible.
I remember very well many of the discussions, yes. For example, I remember how Jimbo flagrantly lied about ever running a study on the effect of turning off anonymous page creation. I also remember the many questions about conflicts of interest dogging Wikia from the day it was created.
I do not expect true motives to be written down. If Jimbo tolerated and endorsed deletionist approaches, ramming through changes like disabling anon page creation, due to conscious or subconscious conflicts of interest—do you really think he and the other WMFers who were associated with Wikia would have written it down in public?
No, not really. This is all stuff from years ago (8 years now, I think, in the case of anon page creation). I’m sure it can all be dug up, but it can be quite a challenge to figure out where in the archive pages or revision histories an exact statement was made. And all of this was well-known to us core Wikipedians from that era, so it’s not like I ever needed cites.
What Jimbo does these days may bear little resemblance to what he was doing in those crucial years 2005-2009 where the die of WP editing culture was cast (in a different sense of ‘die’, if you follow).
“may bear” is literally meaningless. We have every edit of the megabytes of tedious and querulous on-wiki discussion about the content rules; if you’re trying to assert there’s evidence for Christian’s claims, then referencing to the diff is eminently possible. You were there and so was I, it’d be long-winded but shouldn’t be impossible.
I remember very well many of the discussions, yes. For example, I remember how Jimbo flagrantly lied about ever running a study on the effect of turning off anonymous page creation. I also remember the many questions about conflicts of interest dogging Wikia from the day it was created.
I do not expect true motives to be written down. If Jimbo tolerated and endorsed deletionist approaches, ramming through changes like disabling anon page creation, due to conscious or subconscious conflicts of interest—do you really think he and the other WMFers who were associated with Wikia would have written it down in public?
Could you give a few links?
No, not really. This is all stuff from years ago (8 years now, I think, in the case of anon page creation). I’m sure it can all be dug up, but it can be quite a challenge to figure out where in the archive pages or revision histories an exact statement was made. And all of this was well-known to us core Wikipedians from that era, so it’s not like I ever needed cites.