With blind peer review I also don’t know who votes whether my paper gets accepted. In both cases I have a broad idea.
again with the “peer review is not good so voting can be bad too”
I already made a statement. Voting based on a random group of people that can vote without giving any reasoning does not result in objective voting. And this in return censors content.
Now you try to say that this is not that much of a problem because people who are “good” have more influence on the vote. But how is it decided who is good and should have more influence? By them getting votes. It is a circle.
How do you imagine countering the argument that people in a forum are strangers, unknown to you with the power to vote however they desire without having to reason or explain their vote?
Sure you can say that it is not that big of a problem in your opinion but that does not change the truth of my statement.
And even still, a peer review is not an upvote or downvote. You can not break down a peer review to the level of a downvote or upvote.
What do you even try to argue? You try to argue that my statement is wrong because If my argument is correct I would also have to be against peer reviews? And being against peer reviews is not correct?
This just drips with argumentum ad populum. “look at this guy, he must be against peer reviews, everybody does peer reviews so he is wrong”
What do you even try to argue? You try to argue that my statement is wrong because If my argument is correct I would also have to be against peer reviews? And being against peer reviews is not correct?
I’m asking you about what you believe to be true. Working on understanding what the other person believes is a key aspect of having productive conversations that go towards truth. It’s necessary to finding cruxes. It’s one of those rationalist things that you unfortunately don’t find by people who care about debating.
again with the “peer review is not good so voting can be bad too”
I already made a statement. Voting based on a random group of people that can vote without giving any reasoning does not result in objective voting. And this in return censors content.
Now you try to say that this is not that much of a problem because people who are “good” have more influence on the vote. But how is it decided who is good and should have more influence? By them getting votes. It is a circle.
How do you imagine countering the argument that people in a forum are strangers, unknown to you with the power to vote however they desire without having to reason or explain their vote?
Sure you can say that it is not that big of a problem in your opinion but that does not change the truth of my statement.
And even still, a peer review is not an upvote or downvote. You can not break down a peer review to the level of a downvote or upvote.
What do you even try to argue? You try to argue that my statement is wrong because If my argument is correct I would also have to be against peer reviews? And being against peer reviews is not correct?
This just drips with argumentum ad populum. “look at this guy, he must be against peer reviews, everybody does peer reviews so he is wrong”
I’m asking you about what you believe to be true. Working on understanding what the other person believes is a key aspect of having productive conversations that go towards truth. It’s necessary to finding cruxes. It’s one of those rationalist things that you unfortunately don’t find by people who care about debating.
I already replied to that. Peer review is not ideal but far better than a voting system as it is implemented in forums.
Both bring censorship.
Voting should be changed because censorship is damaging to objective discussion.
Should voting be removed with no replacement to ensure quality and order in a forum? no. and I have never claimed that.