I get to have all these talkative blowhard traits and no one will punish me for it cuz I’m a girl. This is one major reason detrans would make my life worse. Society is so cruel to men, it sucks so much for them
And another trans woman had told me almost the exact same thing a couple months ago.
My take is that roles have upsides and downsides, and that you’ll do a bad job if you try to say one role is better or worse than another on net or say that a role is more downside than upside. Also, there are versions of “women talk too much” as a stereotype in many subcultures, but I don’t have a good inside view about it.
This may be true, but it might be that she’s incurring a bunch of social penalities she isn’t aware of. Women are less likely to overtly punish, so if she’s spending more time with women that could already explain it. No one yells at you to STFU, but you miss out on party invite you would have gotten if you shared the conversation better.
I suspect men are also more willing to tell other men to STFU than they are to say it to women, but will let someone else speak to that question.
The fact that both roles have advantages and disadvantage doesn’t necessarily prove that neither is better on net. Then again, “better” by what preferences? Lucky are the people whose preferences match the role they were assigned.
To me it seems that women have a greater freedom of self-expression, as long as they are not competitive. Men are treated instrumentally: they are socially allowed to work and to compete against each other, anything else is a waste of energy. For example, it is okay for a man to talk a lot, if he is a politician, manager, salesman, professor, priest… simply, if it is a part of his job. And when he is seducing a woman. Otherwise, he should be silent. Women are expected to chit-chat all the time, but they should never contradict men, or say anything controversial.
one may be net better than the other, I just think the expected error washes out all of one’s reasoning so individuals shouldn’t be confident they’re right.
A trans woman told me
And another trans woman had told me almost the exact same thing a couple months ago.
My take is that roles have upsides and downsides, and that you’ll do a bad job if you try to say one role is better or worse than another on net or say that a role is more downside than upside. Also, there are versions of “women talk too much” as a stereotype in many subcultures, but I don’t have a good inside view about it.
This may be true, but it might be that she’s incurring a bunch of social penalities she isn’t aware of. Women are less likely to overtly punish, so if she’s spending more time with women that could already explain it. No one yells at you to STFU, but you miss out on party invite you would have gotten if you shared the conversation better.
I suspect men are also more willing to tell other men to STFU than they are to say it to women, but will let someone else speak to that question.
The fact that both roles have advantages and disadvantage doesn’t necessarily prove that neither is better on net. Then again, “better” by what preferences? Lucky are the people whose preferences match the role they were assigned.
To me it seems that women have a greater freedom of self-expression, as long as they are not competitive. Men are treated instrumentally: they are socially allowed to work and to compete against each other, anything else is a waste of energy. For example, it is okay for a man to talk a lot, if he is a politician, manager, salesman, professor, priest… simply, if it is a part of his job. And when he is seducing a woman. Otherwise, he should be silent. Women are expected to chit-chat all the time, but they should never contradict men, or say anything controversial.
one may be net better than the other, I just think the expected error washes out all of one’s reasoning so individuals shouldn’t be confident they’re right.