With buying sex it’s a bit more complicated because you have culture/religion messing up the status messages. But let’s look at the margins: does a high-roller in Vegas lower his status by ordering girls to his room? I don’t think so.
You’re introducing too many variables to consider. Take this out of rationality, and into intuition, because that’s where status evaluations are made anyways. Pause for a second and picture the person who is hiring six prostitutes.
Does he -look- high status? Is he short, or tall? Is he wearing nice well-tailored clothes, or are they alcohol-stained and rumply? Is he lean, or overweight? Is his arm over the shoulder of one or two of the prostitutes, or at their waists? Are his teeth clean and white, or plaque-colored? How obviously drunk is he?
Now picture the guy who is engaging in another form of conspicuous consumption, buying a night of drinks for a bar. What does he look like?
More importantly: What images do you think -other- people would conjure, when they imagine these two people?
Given only the information that he’s rich and hired six prostitutes, most people aren’t going to picture a well-groomed businessman. You leap to a lower-status class of rich—hip-hop mogul—where hiring six prostitutes might be acceptable, without apparently realizing you’re shifting to a lower-status class of rich. (But even among hip-hop moguls, however, buying six women suggests you can’t seduce them.) I’d leap to rock star, another form of lower-status rich.
More importantly: What images do you think -other- people would conjure, when they imagine these two people?
I don’t know and neither do you. I think different people would conjure different images.
And status is (at least) a two-variable function: you think that a hip-hop mogul is a “lower-status class of rich”, presumably lower than a Boston brahmin—or, more generically, a rich New England WASP with lineage stretching to the Mayflower or thereabouts—but that’s not a universal. In some sub-cultures it is lower, in some sub-cultures it is higher.
Not only do I know, the vast majority of people know; it is this shared knowledge which makes status signaling possible in the first place.
And sure. And the rich New England WASP and hip-hop mogul are both lower-status than almost anybody at a convention of physicists. And at an imaginary convention of johns, the guy who buys thirty is the highest status. That’s not the context which matters for the purpose of law and advocacy, however.
You are confused between being sufficiently socially clueful to understand status signaling and having the same mental imagery in response to a short description.
But I’m not quite sure what are we arguing about :-) Is there any falsifiable notion in play?
You’re introducing too many variables to consider. Take this out of rationality, and into intuition, because that’s where status evaluations are made anyways. Pause for a second and picture the person who is hiring six prostitutes.
Does he -look- high status? Is he short, or tall? Is he wearing nice well-tailored clothes, or are they alcohol-stained and rumply? Is he lean, or overweight? Is his arm over the shoulder of one or two of the prostitutes, or at their waists? Are his teeth clean and white, or plaque-colored? How obviously drunk is he?
Now picture the guy who is engaging in another form of conspicuous consumption, buying a night of drinks for a bar. What does he look like?
More importantly: What images do you think -other- people would conjure, when they imagine these two people?
Given only the information that he’s rich and hired six prostitutes, most people aren’t going to picture a well-groomed businessman. You leap to a lower-status class of rich—hip-hop mogul—where hiring six prostitutes might be acceptable, without apparently realizing you’re shifting to a lower-status class of rich. (But even among hip-hop moguls, however, buying six women suggests you can’t seduce them.) I’d leap to rock star, another form of lower-status rich.
I don’t know and neither do you. I think different people would conjure different images.
And status is (at least) a two-variable function: you think that a hip-hop mogul is a “lower-status class of rich”, presumably lower than a Boston brahmin—or, more generically, a rich New England WASP with lineage stretching to the Mayflower or thereabouts—but that’s not a universal. In some sub-cultures it is lower, in some sub-cultures it is higher.
Not only do I know, the vast majority of people know; it is this shared knowledge which makes status signaling possible in the first place.
And sure. And the rich New England WASP and hip-hop mogul are both lower-status than almost anybody at a convention of physicists. And at an imaginary convention of johns, the guy who buys thirty is the highest status. That’s not the context which matters for the purpose of law and advocacy, however.
You are confused between being sufficiently socially clueful to understand status signaling and having the same mental imagery in response to a short description.
But I’m not quite sure what are we arguing about :-) Is there any falsifiable notion in play?