>When one realizes how far life is from the rosy picture that is often painted, one has a much easier time accepting death, even while still fearing it or still wanting to live as long as possible.
Do you truly estimate your life as not worth or barely worth living? If yes, I’m deeply sorry about that and I hope you’ll find a way to improve it. Let me assure you that there’s many people, myself included, who truly genuinely love life and enjoy it.
If it’s just a comforting lie you believe in believing to make the thought of death more tolerable, well, I can understand that, death really is terrifying, but then consider maybe not to use it as an argument.
I see this argument more often but I don’t think it’s always fear of death that is the driving force of not wanting to live forever.
Can you tell me if there’s something wrong with the following metaphor:
I immensely enjoy a mountain hiking trip but after a few weeks it needs to end because my body is aching and even the beauty of the mountains becomes mundane.
Isn’t life somehow the same way?
Some burdens seem only carry-able because they’re temporary and some beauty is only (or more) beautiful because it’s fleeting.
(By the way I would jump on the opportunity of
an increased life span to say 200-300 years, 80 seems really short, but not indefinite extension)
Maybe it’s a mind projection fallacy? I can’t relate to that at all. I never tire of doing something new, or trying again something I enjoyed before. And there is so much to do in the universe… I could spend millions of years and not run out of things to do.
>By the way I would jump on the opportunity of an increased life span to say 200-300 years, 80 seems really short, but not indefinite extension
Ok that’s honestly good enough for me, I say lets get there and then argue whether we need more extension.
I’m no therapist and not even good as a regular human being at talking about carrying burdens that make one to want to kill themselves eventually, you should probably seek advice of someone who can do a better job at it.
“Do you truly estimate your life as not worth or barely worth living? If yes, I’m deeply sorry about that and I hope you’ll find a way to improve it. Let me assure you that there’s many people, myself included, who truly genuinely love life and enjoy it.”
Nah, I’ve been lucky myself. But this isn’t about myself or any individual, but life is general. I keep saying this: people today live in this rare modern oasis of comfort, which gives them these naive perspectives. Until they develop an excruciatingly painful chronic disease at least (and I mean, don’t even need to mention the massive modern dark clouds over our heads that anyone in this forum should know about).
So your argument is that people should die for their own good, despite what they think about it themselves? Probably not since it’d be a almost a caricature villain, but I don’t see where else are you going with this. And the goal of “not developing an excruciatingly painful chronic disease” is not exactly at odds with the goal “combat aging”.
>When one realizes how far life is from the rosy picture that is often painted, one has a much easier time accepting death, even while still fearing it or still wanting to live as long as possible.
Do you truly estimate your life as not worth or barely worth living? If yes, I’m deeply sorry about that and I hope you’ll find a way to improve it. Let me assure you that there’s many people, myself included, who truly genuinely love life and enjoy it.
If it’s just a comforting lie you believe in believing to make the thought of death more tolerable, well, I can understand that, death really is terrifying, but then consider maybe not to use it as an argument.
I see this argument more often but I don’t think it’s always fear of death that is the driving force of not wanting to live forever.
Can you tell me if there’s something wrong with the following metaphor:
I immensely enjoy a mountain hiking trip but after a few weeks it needs to end because my body is aching and even the beauty of the mountains becomes mundane.
Isn’t life somehow the same way?
Some burdens seem only carry-able because they’re temporary and some beauty is only (or more) beautiful because it’s fleeting.
(By the way I would jump on the opportunity of an increased life span to say 200-300 years, 80 seems really short, but not indefinite extension)
Maybe it’s a mind projection fallacy? I can’t relate to that at all. I never tire of doing something new, or trying again something I enjoyed before. And there is so much to do in the universe… I could spend millions of years and not run out of things to do.
Yes, my life does not seem similar to a mountain hiking trip at all.
>By the way I would jump on the opportunity of an increased life span to say 200-300 years, 80 seems really short, but not indefinite extension
Ok that’s honestly good enough for me, I say lets get there and then argue whether we need more extension.
I’m no therapist and not even good as a regular human being at talking about carrying burdens that make one to want to kill themselves eventually, you should probably seek advice of someone who can do a better job at it.
“Do you truly estimate your life as not worth or barely worth living? If yes, I’m deeply sorry about that and I hope you’ll find a way to improve it. Let me assure you that there’s many people, myself included, who truly genuinely love life and enjoy it.”
Nah, I’ve been lucky myself. But this isn’t about myself or any individual, but life is general. I keep saying this: people today live in this rare modern oasis of comfort, which gives them these naive perspectives. Until they develop an excruciatingly painful chronic disease at least (and I mean, don’t even need to mention the massive modern dark clouds over our heads that anyone in this forum should know about).
So your argument is that people should die for their own good, despite what they think about it themselves? Probably not since it’d be a almost a caricature villain, but I don’t see where else are you going with this. And the goal of “not developing an excruciatingly painful chronic disease” is not exactly at odds with the goal “combat aging”.