RichardKennaway just gave you a link containing economic discussions about minimum wage, doesn’t that count? Or does that fall under “completely different moral principles”?
I responded prior to reading that link, as I had posted that statement prior to being sent to that link. Giving myself additional time to fabricate a reason for my statement would seem disingenuous.
Provisionally, some of the arguments seem to fit in those categories, but others may not.
Unfortunately, there’s not really much in the way of support for many of the claims, due to the fact it’s Wikipedia, and full arguments are never likely to be presented there. So I’m going to follow some of the links.
I don’t think you can tell much about someone’s rationality from the views he holds—a more important factor is how he reached those views
Indeed, but it is not simply the views, but observing the debate patterns, that has made me believe this site to be at least slightly more rational than average.
Hence, when seeking rational reasons to abandon a belief that I know may be irrational, I decided this was a good port of call.
I responded prior to reading that link, as I had posted that statement prior to being sent to that link. Giving myself additional time to fabricate a reason for my statement would seem disingenuous.
That makes sense; I had interpreted the conversation more like:
-- “I never saw a good argument against minimum wage”
-- “Well, here’s a complex economics analysis on Wikipedia that points some theoretical problems with minimum wage”
-- “Hmm, I still haven’t seen a good argument against minimum wage.”
On minimum wage, my personal position is to suspend judgement until I take the time to understand the economics (which are complicated) and the ethics (which are complicated in a different way). Seems that economics analysis indicates that minimum wage is overall negative, but that the actual data doesn’t confirm what the theory predicted. I don’t feel a very strong need to decide that one side is wrong and one side is right, and am satisfied with staying somewhat ignorant until I have the time and need to dig deeper into the problem (so this thread is somewhat interesting).
I responded prior to reading that link, as I had posted that statement prior to being sent to that link. Giving myself additional time to fabricate a reason for my statement would seem disingenuous.
Provisionally, some of the arguments seem to fit in those categories, but others may not. Unfortunately, there’s not really much in the way of support for many of the claims, due to the fact it’s Wikipedia, and full arguments are never likely to be presented there. So I’m going to follow some of the links.
Indeed, but it is not simply the views, but observing the debate patterns, that has made me believe this site to be at least slightly more rational than average.
Hence, when seeking rational reasons to abandon a belief that I know may be irrational, I decided this was a good port of call.
That makes sense; I had interpreted the conversation more like:
-- “I never saw a good argument against minimum wage”
-- “Well, here’s a complex economics analysis on Wikipedia that points some theoretical problems with minimum wage”
-- “Hmm, I still haven’t seen a good argument against minimum wage.”
On minimum wage, my personal position is to suspend judgement until I take the time to understand the economics (which are complicated) and the ethics (which are complicated in a different way). Seems that economics analysis indicates that minimum wage is overall negative, but that the actual data doesn’t confirm what the theory predicted. I don’t feel a very strong need to decide that one side is wrong and one side is right, and am satisfied with staying somewhat ignorant until I have the time and need to dig deeper into the problem (so this thread is somewhat interesting).