I am not a big fan of it either, but I see a non-zero chance that same brains with simpler environments can sometimes ponder or experiment with some problems more.
If you believe that your rain dance has to please the rain god, you won’t optimize your rain dance for muscle building or other physical benefits.
It will also be less effective for other people who copy the rain dance without believing in it’s significance.
Now, as for sports, just from the top of my mind, competitive acrobatic dancing e.g. womens pole dancing would easily satisfy a large chunk of it. This is why I think there is a potential to optimize it.
Pole dancing isn’t ergonomic. It’s bad for joints. It doesn’t train good movement habits.
If you want acrobatic dancing there’s Zouk. Outside of regulated ballroom dances that have rules about feet touching the ground stage dancing also involves a lot of acrobatics.
From your list of goals I don’t think “Feeling proud” is a worthwhile goal. It’s better than feeling angry but I don’t consider it to a clearly positive emotion.
Pole dancing isn’t ergonomic. It’s bad for joints. It doesn’t train good movement habits.
It does not differ too much from standard gymnastics, rings, bars, horse, vault etc. And while I am not sure what makes movement habits good or bad, to me gymnasts look like the kind of people who have perfected the mastery over the body.
From your list of goals I don’t think “Feeling proud” is a worthwhile goal. It’s better than feeling angry but I don’t consider it to a clearly positive emotion.
Healthy level of self-confidence then. “Nerdy” people tend to have far lower than what is healthy. Social anxiety etc.
It does not differ too much from standard gymnastics, rings, bars, horse, vault etc.
Rings are not the same thing as a static pole.
Rings move. A pole doesn’t.
Having perfect mastery over your body when you are 25 isn’t worth having joint issues when you are 50.
But let’s look at Svetlana Khorkina who’s the top female medalists at the World Artistic Gymnastics Championships. The first interview I find is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaJ92uuKjpo .
She has little body movement while talking. I think she’s simply trained to lock body movement instead of allowing her body to move freely.
Healthy level of self-confidence then.
Proudness is a real emotion and there are people who seek it. Do you understand why I might object to that?
Social anxiety etc.
Once you identify that issue as important a social sport is better than a competitive solo sport.
Then you shouldn’t simply switch to a different word in discussions like this and basically ignore the point of the argument.
I am very much used to everybody being far too timid.
Timid is not the opposite of proudness. It’s the opposite of being timid is being confident.
Proudness is “Stolz” in German.
Both feeling loved by other people and feeling proud come with being confident. The person who optimizes for feeling loved usually plays positive sum games while the person who optimizes for feeling proud plays zero sum games.
The hugging at LWCW-EU makes people feel loved. It raises the social confidence of everybody involved. On the other hand someone who comes out of the event feeling proud that he hugged 50 different people is doing everything wrong.
If you believe that your rain dance has to please the rain god, you won’t optimize your rain dance for muscle building or other physical benefits.
It will also be less effective for other people who copy the rain dance without believing in it’s significance.
Pole dancing isn’t ergonomic. It’s bad for joints. It doesn’t train good movement habits.
If you want acrobatic dancing there’s Zouk. Outside of regulated ballroom dances that have rules about feet touching the ground stage dancing also involves a lot of acrobatics.
From your list of goals I don’t think “Feeling proud” is a worthwhile goal. It’s better than feeling angry but I don’t consider it to a clearly positive emotion.
It does not differ too much from standard gymnastics, rings, bars, horse, vault etc. And while I am not sure what makes movement habits good or bad, to me gymnasts look like the kind of people who have perfected the mastery over the body.
Healthy level of self-confidence then. “Nerdy” people tend to have far lower than what is healthy. Social anxiety etc.
Rings are not the same thing as a static pole. Rings move. A pole doesn’t.
Having perfect mastery over your body when you are 25 isn’t worth having joint issues when you are 50.
But let’s look at Svetlana Khorkina who’s the top female medalists at the World Artistic Gymnastics Championships. The first interview I find is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaJ92uuKjpo . She has little body movement while talking. I think she’s simply trained to lock body movement instead of allowing her body to move freely.
Proudness is a real emotion and there are people who seek it. Do you understand why I might object to that?
Once you identify that issue as important a social sport is better than a competitive solo sport.
No, unfortunately not. Can you give a real or hypothetical negative example of proudness? I am very much used to everybody being far too timid.
Proudness = pride = one of the seven deadly sins in Christianity = antonym of humble, humility.
Maybe you mean self-confidence?
Then you shouldn’t simply switch to a different word in discussions like this and basically ignore the point of the argument.
Timid is not the opposite of proudness. It’s the opposite of being timid is being confident. Proudness is “Stolz” in German.
Both feeling loved by other people and feeling proud come with being confident.
The person who optimizes for feeling loved usually plays positive sum games while the person who optimizes for feeling proud plays zero sum games.
The hugging at LWCW-EU makes people feel loved. It raises the social confidence of everybody involved. On the other hand someone who comes out of the event feeling proud that he hugged 50 different people is doing everything wrong.