There’s also an ambiguity here about “how much can LWers discuss particular important questions or issues that are informed by stuff they learned from the meetup, or from p.b. and others’ notes?”.
I assume Sam’s views are now generally ‘in the water’ on LW, and that it would be pretty costly for the whole community to permanently self-censor about them in all non-private discussion.
(Both because the info is pretty important and discussion-worthy, and because keeping long-term secrets tends to be very cognitively taxing. And people weren’t warned in advance that they might have to permanently tag a bunch of complicated facts in their head as ‘secret’ and avoid mentioning them at all—either at the meetup, AFAICT, or before reading p.b.’s post.)
I think it makes more sense for the norm to be something like ‘don’t make a big public list of Things Sam Said At The Meetup’, ‘don’t go giving interviews to reporters about it’, and ‘don’t title your posts “Sam Altman thinks X” if your only evidence is from the meetup’, but for discussion of this stuff to otherwise be fair game going forward. (Maybe after a one-week moratorium or something, I dunno.)
+1 My model of this (was not at the meetup, but have been part of many discussions/announcements with varying levels of confidentiality) is that talking about issues or topics is just fine, but quotes or appeals to authority “Sam Altman said!” are discouraged. Anything Privileged and Confidential (legally non-discoverable) was already not part of the Q&A. Anything so tentative or sensitive that it shouldn’t be discussed at all will have been explicitly stated in the meeting as such (or omitted entirely).
There’s also an ambiguity here about “how much can LWers discuss particular important questions or issues that are informed by stuff they learned from the meetup, or from p.b. and others’ notes?”.
I assume Sam’s views are now generally ‘in the water’ on LW, and that it would be pretty costly for the whole community to permanently self-censor about them in all non-private discussion.
(Both because the info is pretty important and discussion-worthy, and because keeping long-term secrets tends to be very cognitively taxing. And people weren’t warned in advance that they might have to permanently tag a bunch of complicated facts in their head as ‘secret’ and avoid mentioning them at all—either at the meetup, AFAICT, or before reading p.b.’s post.)
I think it makes more sense for the norm to be something like ‘don’t make a big public list of Things Sam Said At The Meetup’, ‘don’t go giving interviews to reporters about it’, and ‘don’t title your posts “Sam Altman thinks X” if your only evidence is from the meetup’, but for discussion of this stuff to otherwise be fair game going forward. (Maybe after a one-week moratorium or something, I dunno.)
+1
My model of this (was not at the meetup, but have been part of many discussions/announcements with varying levels of confidentiality) is that talking about issues or topics is just fine, but quotes or appeals to authority “Sam Altman said!” are discouraged. Anything Privileged and Confidential (legally non-discoverable) was already not part of the Q&A. Anything so tentative or sensitive that it shouldn’t be discussed at all will have been explicitly stated in the meeting as such (or omitted entirely).
(If others disagree, I’m probably easy to convince on this.)