Evidence that I suspect says more about Tina Fey’s past insecurities than about scarcity bias. She is hot enough that she would have been seen as such even in school. Unless American high schools really are like they appear in movies. The hot girl isn’t hot until she has a makeover involving taking off her glasses and letting her hair down!
When I was in high school, most of the girls around me seemed to me to be as beautiful as anyone I ever saw on television or in the movies. Most high school girls are significantly hotter than the woman of median hotness in the population as a whole (getting older tends to make women less beautiful), so they would have to be even hotter than that in order to stand out.
It’s plausible that people weren’t talking about in public where she could hear it about how good she looked until she became famous.
Also, excuse me if I’m mistaken about this, but there’s something about your phrasing which leaves me thinking that there’s something weird about a woman who’s attractive to you being insecure about her looks. There seems to be huge cultural pressure in the US for women to think they don’t look good enough, and what’s surprising to me is immunity to it.
but there’s something about your phrasing which leaves me thinking that there’s something weird about a woman who’s attractive to you being insecure about her looks.
No. I’ve met enough people who fit that category that I don’t find it weird at all. A little annoying and something to be discouraged if convenient but not particularly weird.
The ‘hot’ evaluation is not a matter of who I find attractive but of who I evaluate as being considered attractive in general (or possibly what I think other people with think other people find attractive). She isn’t exactly what I find attractive even though her general purpose hotness overflows into the wedrifid specific evaluation at least in part.
I was referring to an indication of the verbal behaviour of people encountering Tina Fey (people saying that she is hot) rather than whether Tina Fey personally considers herself hot. Sure, personal insecurity can bias recollections about what people say and do but that certainly isn’t covered in my phrasing—that’s all in your reading!
My impression is that men are also influenced by how attractive other men think a woman is.
Semi-Anecdotal evidence of this: Tina Fey reports that she was never seen as “hot” until after she became famous.
Evidence that I suspect says more about Tina Fey’s past insecurities than about scarcity bias. She is hot enough that she would have been seen as such even in school. Unless American high schools really are like they appear in movies. The hot girl isn’t hot until she has a makeover involving taking off her glasses and letting her hair down!
When I was in high school, most of the girls around me seemed to me to be as beautiful as anyone I ever saw on television or in the movies. Most high school girls are significantly hotter than the woman of median hotness in the population as a whole (getting older tends to make women less beautiful), so they would have to be even hotter than that in order to stand out.
It’s plausible that people weren’t talking about in public where she could hear it about how good she looked until she became famous.
Also, excuse me if I’m mistaken about this, but there’s something about your phrasing which leaves me thinking that there’s something weird about a woman who’s attractive to you being insecure about her looks. There seems to be huge cultural pressure in the US for women to think they don’t look good enough, and what’s surprising to me is immunity to it.
No. I’ve met enough people who fit that category that I don’t find it weird at all. A little annoying and something to be discouraged if convenient but not particularly weird.
The ‘hot’ evaluation is not a matter of who I find attractive but of who I evaluate as being considered attractive in general (or possibly what I think other people with think other people find attractive). She isn’t exactly what I find attractive even though her general purpose hotness overflows into the wedrifid specific evaluation at least in part.
I was referring to an indication of the verbal behaviour of people encountering Tina Fey (people saying that she is hot) rather than whether Tina Fey personally considers herself hot. Sure, personal insecurity can bias recollections about what people say and do but that certainly isn’t covered in my phrasing—that’s all in your reading!
Tina Fey lost a bunch of weight just before she got on TV. Given that there isn’t really anything else to explain.
That would do it. She’d have been pretty and even attractive with the extra weight but ‘hot’ is rather more specific in this culture.