You can get evidence from the clever arguer IFF (the arguer has an overwhelming supply of evidence for his side OR you have any evidence as to which side he is on). But you should never adjust your expected level DOWN based on his behaviour unless you have external evidence as to which side he is on.
Am I right in assuming that the above is your intended meaning? It seems to fit and if not I would have to reject the ‘exclusive if’ claim.
I also note that even if you don’t know which side a clever arguer is on, if your probability is not at 0.5 then you will still need to update, regardless of what evidence the cleaver arguer has. Just by knowing that he is a clever arguer.
Ahh, welcome welcome to lesswrong! The syntax is based off markdown.
> If you copy and pasted this sentence it would appear as a quote. (It doesn’t for me because I put the angle bracket in a code span with back ticks:`>` )
Ahh, welcome welcome to lesswrong! The syntax is based off markdown.
> If you copy and paste this sentence it would appear as a quote. (It doesn’t for me because I put the angle bracket in a code span with back ticks: \> )
Except, um, without the slash. That’s a weird bug. (But if I take it out, it shows a quote line instead of the greater-than sign. That slash is markdown’s escape character.)
Am I right in assuming that the above is your intended meaning? It seems to fit and if not I would have to reject the ‘exclusive if’ claim.
I also note that even if you don’t know which side a clever arguer is on, if your probability is not at 0.5 then you will still need to update, regardless of what evidence the cleaver arguer has. Just by knowing that he is a clever arguer.
Indeed you are correct as regards your correction (am editing it now)
mental note, think through further before posting
On the second bit: I’m not sure if that’s accurate. I’ve got intuitions arguing in both directions. I will have to think on it
oh, btw, how do you do those quote-lines?
Ahh, welcome welcome to lesswrong! The syntax is based off markdown.
>If you copy and pasted this sentence it would appear as a quote. (It doesn’t for me because I put the angle bracket in a code span with back ticks:`>`)The general answer is that if you hit the Help button at the lower left corner of the reply box, you get some formatting information.
IIRC, the help window is a subset of a system called Markup, but I can’t find a link for it.
Markdown.
Lower right corner.
(Well, on my system, at least. “There is at least one user interface element on a Web app that is black on at least one side.”)
Sorry—a slip of the mind on my part—it’s lower right for me, too.
Ahh, welcome welcome to lesswrong! The syntax is based off markdown.
>If you copy and paste this sentence it would appear as a quote. (It doesn’t for me because I put the angle bracket in a code span with back ticks:\> )Ahh, welcome welcome to lesswrong! The syntax is based off markdown.
> If you copy and paste this sentence it would appear as a quote. (It doesn’t for me because I espcaped the angle bracket like so: \>)
Like this:
> Quoted text goes here.
Except, um, without the slash. That’s a weird bug. (But if I take it out, it shows a quote line instead of the greater-than sign. That slash is markdown’s escape character.)
Start a new line with a right angle bracket and a space, then the text you want to quote.