I’m not sure what “an excess of time and attention” would even mean.
Let’s say every moment is a unit of time and attention. I get to choose what I spend it on, but I can’t choose not to spend it. It will be spent, one way or another. Nor can I spend more than the time and attention of this moment. I can’t get into time/attention debt, nor can I accumulate a stockpile of it, to spend later.
I suppose, running out of things on which to spend it—that would constitute “an excess of time and attention”. That sounds, absolutely wonderful. Perhaps that’s what full enlightenment is. Nothing to do, nothing to attend.
And I know intellectually that that’s how it really is, but my remaining misperception (bias) makes it feel otherwise. My process of unlearning is not complete.
As perception is corrected, things I would previously have spent a lot of time and attention on, are either delt with quickly/efficiently, or do not arise at all. But that does not produce an excess of time and attention. All that means is that I spend my time and attention on something else, usually the next learning situation. That’s how I ended up signing up for a Less Wrong account and posting here—I ran out of better things to do with my time and attention, and, well, I think Less Wrong is way cool in lots of ways. I haven’t gotten over that (biased) impression yet. I often find talking to a community, a great way to learn enough about them to get over them. Then I will get to that point where I realise there’s no more need spend any time and attention on Less Wrong, and I’ll spend it on something else, and so on until I am fully enlightened or dead.
Basic (body) needs like money, housing, food etc obviously must be taken care of first. I wouldn’t be spending any of my time here if I were in a situation that demanded I exchange some of my time for money.
I mean, excess time and attention would mean that you used your lack of bias to craft a life where you could put your time attention in places that you fundamentally enjoy.
That sounds to me like an expression of your own beliefs. You believe that bias and a lack of money/time/attention holds you back from crafting a life where you could put your time and attention in places that you fundamentally enjoy.
It’s really the other way around. When you start to put your time and attention in places you fundamentally enjoy, your situation changes to support you in that (though it rarely seems that way at first). No crafting required.
Matter rearranges itself to suit whatever purpose the mind sets. Ultimately there is no matter, because there is no universe, only the mind and its projection. The universe is a bit like a dream. The dream we experience is never more or less than a symbolic representation of the content in the mind of the dreamer.
Just to check, are you making a claim like The Secret that without taking any actions, without expressing the contents of your thoughts in any way, without any sort of traditional “causal connection”, your thoughts will shape the universe to get you what you want?
I think you have made a classical enlightenment mistake of failing to separate your experience of the world from the world itself. The map is indeed not the territory, even when you’re enlightened.
If you’re so unbiased, do you have an excess of time and attention?
I’m not sure what “an excess of time and attention” would even mean.
Let’s say every moment is a unit of time and attention. I get to choose what I spend it on, but I can’t choose not to spend it. It will be spent, one way or another. Nor can I spend more than the time and attention of this moment. I can’t get into time/attention debt, nor can I accumulate a stockpile of it, to spend later.
I suppose, running out of things on which to spend it—that would constitute “an excess of time and attention”. That sounds, absolutely wonderful. Perhaps that’s what full enlightenment is. Nothing to do, nothing to attend.
And I know intellectually that that’s how it really is, but my remaining misperception (bias) makes it feel otherwise. My process of unlearning is not complete.
As perception is corrected, things I would previously have spent a lot of time and attention on, are either delt with quickly/efficiently, or do not arise at all. But that does not produce an excess of time and attention. All that means is that I spend my time and attention on something else, usually the next learning situation. That’s how I ended up signing up for a Less Wrong account and posting here—I ran out of better things to do with my time and attention, and, well, I think Less Wrong is way cool in lots of ways. I haven’t gotten over that (biased) impression yet. I often find talking to a community, a great way to learn enough about them to get over them. Then I will get to that point where I realise there’s no more need spend any time and attention on Less Wrong, and I’ll spend it on something else, and so on until I am fully enlightened or dead.
Basic (body) needs like money, housing, food etc obviously must be taken care of first. I wouldn’t be spending any of my time here if I were in a situation that demanded I exchange some of my time for money.
I mean, excess time and attention would mean that you used your lack of bias to craft a life where you could put your time attention in places that you fundamentally enjoy.
That sounds to me like an expression of your own beliefs. You believe that bias and a lack of money/time/attention holds you back from crafting a life where you could put your time and attention in places that you fundamentally enjoy.
It’s really the other way around. When you start to put your time and attention in places you fundamentally enjoy, your situation changes to support you in that (though it rarely seems that way at first). No crafting required.
Matter rearranges itself to suit whatever purpose the mind sets. Ultimately there is no matter, because there is no universe, only the mind and its projection. The universe is a bit like a dream. The dream we experience is never more or less than a symbolic representation of the content in the mind of the dreamer.
Just to check, are you making a claim like The Secret that without taking any actions, without expressing the contents of your thoughts in any way, without any sort of traditional “causal connection”, your thoughts will shape the universe to get you what you want?
I think you have made a classical enlightenment mistake of failing to separate your experience of the world from the world itself. The map is indeed not the territory, even when you’re enlightened.