1. More people would probably rank tags if it could be done directly through the tag icon instead of using the pop-up window.
2. When searching for new tags, I’d like them sorted probably by relevance (say, some preference for: being a prefix, being a popular tag, alphabetical ordering).
3. When browsing through all posts tagged with some tag, I’d maybe prefer to see higher karma posts first, or to have it factored in the ordering.
4. Perhaps it might be easier to have a hierarchy of tags—so that voting for Value learning also votes for AI Alignment say
Perhaps it might be easier to have a hierarchy of tags—so that voting for Value learning also votes for AI Alignment say
I have a question related to this—I just went to find That Alien Message to mark it with the AI Alignment tag, but then found it was already marked with the AI Boxing (Containment) tag. If Boxing is meant to be a subtag under the AI Alignment category, then I would think there’s nothing more to do, but when I go to the Boxing page, there doesn’t seem to be anything explicitly linking it to the AI Alignment page.
And That Alien Message doesn’t show up as one of the posts in the list on the AI Alignment page, but I’d think it should, since I consider it part of the AI safety “canon” as one of the best sources for building a particular intuition.
So, should That Alien Message be explicitly tagged with AI Alignment? Or Should AI Boxing (Containment) be explicitly linked to AI Alignment somehow? Or does how I’m thinking about how all this should work differ from what the LW team is thinking?
Yeah, I really don’t know yet how we should handle hierarchical tagging. My current model is that “That Alien Message” should just be tagged both AI Alignment and AI Boxing, and that we should be hesitant to have too much formal hierarchy in the tags, since I expect that most relationships will turn out to be only “almost hierarchical” in that it’s not literally always the case the we would want to apply both tags together, and being forced to always have them come in a package is I think pretty costly.
I do think the description of the AI Boxing tag should link to the AI Alignment tag, so that should be edited in. And in general related tags should link to each other a lot, to make it easier to discover content that way.
I do think there will be an appreciable number of tags (even if they’re a minority) that are strictly subsets of, say, AI alignment. Like everything under Value Learning or Embedded Agents, etc, and maybe it’s worth it to have that automatically update.
I do feel tag descriptions linking to other tags is extremely important for the system to work and will help a lot here.
I agree that hierarchy can be used only sparingly and still be very helpful. Perhaps just nesting under the core tags, or something similar.
On special posts where that does not seem to be the case that the hierarchy holds, people can still downvote the parent tag. That is annoying, but may reduce work overall.
Yes, I think That Alien Message should have the AI Alignment tag. (In general, if older posts don’t have tags, it mostly means no one has considered yet whether the tag should be applied.)
Some thoughts:
1. More people would probably rank tags if it could be done directly through the tag icon instead of using the pop-up window.
2. When searching for new tags, I’d like them sorted probably by relevance (say, some preference for: being a prefix, being a popular tag, alphabetical ordering).
3. When browsing through all posts tagged with some tag, I’d maybe prefer to see higher karma posts first, or to have it factored in the ordering.
4. Perhaps it might be easier to have a hierarchy of tags—so that voting for Value learning also votes for AI Alignment say
I have a question related to this—I just went to find That Alien Message to mark it with the AI Alignment tag, but then found it was already marked with the AI Boxing (Containment) tag. If Boxing is meant to be a subtag under the AI Alignment category, then I would think there’s nothing more to do, but when I go to the Boxing page, there doesn’t seem to be anything explicitly linking it to the AI Alignment page.
And That Alien Message doesn’t show up as one of the posts in the list on the AI Alignment page, but I’d think it should, since I consider it part of the AI safety “canon” as one of the best sources for building a particular intuition.
So, should That Alien Message be explicitly tagged with AI Alignment? Or Should AI Boxing (Containment) be explicitly linked to AI Alignment somehow? Or does how I’m thinking about how all this should work differ from what the LW team is thinking?
Yeah, I really don’t know yet how we should handle hierarchical tagging. My current model is that “That Alien Message” should just be tagged both AI Alignment and AI Boxing, and that we should be hesitant to have too much formal hierarchy in the tags, since I expect that most relationships will turn out to be only “almost hierarchical” in that it’s not literally always the case the we would want to apply both tags together, and being forced to always have them come in a package is I think pretty costly.
I do think the description of the AI Boxing tag should link to the AI Alignment tag, so that should be edited in. And in general related tags should link to each other a lot, to make it easier to discover content that way.
Yeah, I agree with most of that.
I do think there will be an appreciable number of tags (even if they’re a minority) that are strictly subsets of, say, AI alignment. Like everything under Value Learning or Embedded Agents, etc, and maybe it’s worth it to have that automatically update.
I do feel tag descriptions linking to other tags is extremely important for the system to work and will help a lot here.
I agree that hierarchy can be used only sparingly and still be very helpful. Perhaps just nesting under the core tags, or something similar.
On special posts where that does not seem to be the case that the hierarchy holds, people can still downvote the parent tag. That is annoying, but may reduce work overall.
Yes, I think That Alien Message should have the AI Alignment tag. (In general, if older posts don’t have tags, it mostly means no one has considered yet whether the tag should be applied.)
Also, navigating up/down with arrow keys and pressing enter should allow choice of tags with keyboard only.