Or that “40 days” is a linguistic construction meaning literally “a long freaking time”. :P No, it’s not just a few differences in the PoGP. It’s basic errors that are quite evident—prolific, even—in the Bible. If every Christian sect read the Bible the same way, why would there be different sects? No, just because they all “believe the Bible” doesn’t mean you can use “the Bible” as one node in your network.
Can you be the sole determinant about which pieces of information do and do not matter? Let me tell you: if I had to take that “40 days” literally, I would drop the whole claptrap and take up the atheist flag. That wouldn’t be raining; that would be hydraulic mining. Nothing on earth would survive, not even an “ark made out of gopher wood”.
You’re not facing the problem. You can’t write off any of the nodes and say “well, this one doesn’t matter”. You cannot know what other people know unless you ask them. This project of mapping the Bayesian networks of every belief system on the planet is difficult, insanely difficult, impossible. That doesn’t mean you can skip over some parts and pretend they don’t matter. Do you know what happens if you try to do that in quantum mechanics? You get the wrong answer. And considering what’s at stake here, that would be devastating.
Oh, so trolling is okay if it’s against religion? :/
It would be trolling if was stated at a religious forum for the purpose of, well, trolling them. Here it is a allusion to a prevalent human bias towards self-benefiting double-think.
I know Mormons generally say that they take it literally, but I know of a few cases where they don’t. Besides that number thing, they believe angels are resurrected people, and not four-faced hooved monstrosities. I suppose with them it’s literal unless doctrine says otherwise.
With religions in general, you could try adding the probability that it happened and that it was written figuratively, and just do both.
That’s actually close to correct. Joseph Smith went through the Bible and corrected a few things; Moses is a refreshed version of Genesis chapters 1 through Noah or so; Smith also gave us a chunk of Matthew that was missing.… other than that, basically if we find contradictions, we shrug and say “must be a mistranslation”. Also, Book of Mormon takes truth-precedence over the Bible, since it’s been tampered with less. :P
So, covering the entire surface of the Earth and putting two of every animal on one boat is feasible, but raining for 40 days without destroying the boat isn’t?
The issues here are that if this happened, God would be violating the laws of physics and committing genocide.
No, you’re right, and the likelihood is that it was a localized event. Either that, or it took place so long ago that there were fewer types of animals. And then via *gasp* evolution, over the millennia we got, well, today’s diversity.
But I think it’s a tad more likely that it was a localized event. :3
Or that “40 days” is a linguistic construction meaning literally “a long freaking time”. :P No, it’s not just a few differences in the PoGP. It’s basic errors that are quite evident—prolific, even—in the Bible. If every Christian sect read the Bible the same way, why would there be different sects? No, just because they all “believe the Bible” doesn’t mean you can use “the Bible” as one node in your network.
The 40 days part is often considered symbolic, but the time period doesn’t really matter.
Can you be the sole determinant about which pieces of information do and do not matter? Let me tell you: if I had to take that “40 days” literally, I would drop the whole claptrap and take up the atheist flag. That wouldn’t be raining; that would be hydraulic mining. Nothing on earth would survive, not even an “ark made out of gopher wood”.
You’re not facing the problem. You can’t write off any of the nodes and say “well, this one doesn’t matter”. You cannot know what other people know unless you ask them. This project of mapping the Bayesian networks of every belief system on the planet is difficult, insanely difficult, impossible. That doesn’t mean you can skip over some parts and pretend they don’t matter. Do you know what happens if you try to do that in quantum mechanics? You get the wrong answer. And considering what’s at stake here, that would be devastating.
Is there a rule for which parts of the bible you’re not supposed to take literally, besides “whichever ones would be evidence against the Bible”?
Of course, “None of the ones that interfere with whatever actions most benefit me in the forseeable future”.
Oh, so trolling is okay if it’s against religion? :/
It would be trolling if was stated at a religious forum for the purpose of, well, trolling them. Here it is a allusion to a prevalent human bias towards self-benefiting double-think.
No, it’s an implication that the subject under consideration is exhibiting said bias.
I know Mormons generally say that they take it literally, but I know of a few cases where they don’t. Besides that number thing, they believe angels are resurrected people, and not four-faced hooved monstrosities. I suppose with them it’s literal unless doctrine says otherwise.
With religions in general, you could try adding the probability that it happened and that it was written figuratively, and just do both.
That’s actually close to correct. Joseph Smith went through the Bible and corrected a few things; Moses is a refreshed version of Genesis chapters 1 through Noah or so; Smith also gave us a chunk of Matthew that was missing.… other than that, basically if we find contradictions, we shrug and say “must be a mistranslation”. Also, Book of Mormon takes truth-precedence over the Bible, since it’s been tampered with less. :P
So, covering the entire surface of the Earth and putting two of every animal on one boat is feasible, but raining for 40 days without destroying the boat isn’t?
The issues here are that if this happened, God would be violating the laws of physics and committing genocide.
:3 Mwahaha. Marvel at my cognitive dissonance.
No, you’re right, and the likelihood is that it was a localized event. Either that, or it took place so long ago that there were fewer types of animals. And then via *gasp* evolution, over the millennia we got, well, today’s diversity.
But I think it’s a tad more likely that it was a localized event. :3