you need more than five seconds to assess someone’s intellegence, otherwise job interviews would be over very quickly.
OrphanWilde is claiming not that you get all the information you need in 5 seconds, but that you get as much information in 5 seconds as you do from just knowing the candidate’s skin colour[1]. 5 seconds is an awfully short time, but make it a minute and I think he’s probably right.
And there is much evidence that the outcome of an interview is often mostly decided very, very early on, the rest of the interview serving mostly as rationalization fuel.
[1] This is, like everything else in this discussion, conditional on “HBD” being correct and skin colour therefore giving useful information (in expectation) about a person’s cognitive abilities.
you get as much information in 5 seconds as you do from just knowing the candidate’s skin colour … make it a minute and I think he’s probably right
I’d be inclined to agree, but that’s not what he said. What he said is that in 5 seconds you can gain not just as much information as from knowing the race, but so much more information that the racial information is rendered completely irrelevant. This is wrong, if HBD is right.
Yes, it is wrong, and I already said so myself. (In fact, as it happens I said it before you did.) I wasn’t claiming that everything you said is wrong; only that you misunderstood one claim OrphanWilde made. (You yourself split up your objections into “First”, “Second”, and “Third”; I was commenting only on the “First”.)
That is a fine explanation for the downvotes, but you will notice that my comments also came in for some pretty severe criticism from Lumifer and buybuydandavis, neither of whom (so far as I know) is an alias of Eugine.
OrphanWilde is claiming not that you get all the information you need in 5 seconds, but that you get as much information in 5 seconds as you do from just knowing the candidate’s skin colour[1]. 5 seconds is an awfully short time, but make it a minute and I think he’s probably right.
And there is much evidence that the outcome of an interview is often mostly decided very, very early on, the rest of the interview serving mostly as rationalization fuel.
[1] This is, like everything else in this discussion, conditional on “HBD” being correct and skin colour therefore giving useful information (in expectation) about a person’s cognitive abilities.
I’d be inclined to agree, but that’s not what he said. What he said is that in 5 seconds you can gain not just as much information as from knowing the race, but so much more information that the racial information is rendered completely irrelevant. This is wrong, if HBD is right.
Yes, it is wrong, and I already said so myself. (In fact, as it happens I said it before you did.) I wasn’t claiming that everything you said is wrong; only that you misunderstood one claim OrphanWilde made. (You yourself split up your objections into “First”, “Second”, and “Third”; I was commenting only on the “First”.)
I’m not trying to argue with you, sorry if I came across like that. In fact I’ve already upvoted your comments in this discussion.
It would appear that others have a different opinion of them :-).
Eugine was present, and probably engaging in his usual downvoting habit.
That is a fine explanation for the downvotes, but you will notice that my comments also came in for some pretty severe criticism from Lumifer and buybuydandavis, neither of whom (so far as I know) is an alias of Eugine.