I still want to make a really satisfying “fuck yeah” button on LessWrong comments that feels really good to press when I’m like “yeah, go team!” but doesn’t actually mean I want to reward the comment in our longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms.
I think this would seriously help with weird sociokarma cascades.
Ah, I imagine a third set of voting buttons, with large colorful buttons “yay, ingroup!!!” and “fuck outgroup!!!”, with the following functionality:
in your personal settings,you can replace the words “ingroup” and “outgroup” by a custom text
only the votes that agree with you are displayed; for example if there are 5 “yay” votes and 7 “boo” votes, if you voted “yay”, you will only see “5 people voted yay on this comment” (not the total −2)
the yay/boo votes have no impact on karma
if you make a yay/boo vote, the other two sets of voting buttons are disabled for this comment
What I expect from this solution:
to be emotionally deeply satisfying
without having any impact on karma (actually it would take mindkilling votes away from the karma buttons)
What longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms are you talking about? Can you give a few examples of sociokarma cascades that you think will improved by this complexity? Would adding agree/disagree to top-level posts be sufficient (oh, wait, you’re talking about comments. How does agree/disagree not solve this?)
More fundamentally, why do you care about karma, aside from a very noisy short-term input into whether a post or comment is worth thinking about?
Now if you say “do away with strong votes, and limit karma-based vote multiples to 2x”, I’m fully onboard.
I still want to make a really satisfying “fuck yeah” button on LessWrong comments that feels really good to press when I’m like “yeah, go team!” but doesn’t actually mean I want to reward the comment in our longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms.
I think this would seriously help with weird sociokarma cascades.
You should just message them directly. “Your comment was very based.” would feel quite nice in my inbox.
It needs to be less effort than upvoting to accomplish the thing I want.
Ah, I imagine a third set of voting buttons, with large colorful buttons “yay, ingroup!!!” and “fuck outgroup!!!”, with the following functionality:
in your personal settings,you can replace the words “ingroup” and “outgroup” by a custom text
only the votes that agree with you are displayed; for example if there are 5 “yay” votes and 7 “boo” votes, if you voted “yay”, you will only see “5 people voted yay on this comment” (not the total −2)
the yay/boo votes have no impact on karma
if you make a yay/boo vote, the other two sets of voting buttons are disabled for this comment
What I expect from this solution:
to be emotionally deeply satisfying
without having any impact on karma (actually it would take mindkilling votes away from the karma buttons)
What longterm truthtracking or norm-tracking algorithms are you talking about? Can you give a few examples of sociokarma cascades that you think will improved by this complexity? Would adding agree/disagree to top-level posts be sufficient (oh, wait, you’re talking about comments. How does agree/disagree not solve this?)
More fundamentally, why do you care about karma, aside from a very noisy short-term input into whether a post or comment is worth thinking about?
Now if you say “do away with strong votes, and limit karma-based vote multiples to 2x”, I’m fully onboard.