It is honestly frustrating that every time anyone asks you “Why don’t you think this a bad idea, like I do?” you respond with “I will justify myself later; for now, go along with it and do not object.”
This bothers me as much as or more than the ritual stuff itself does. If you decide it’s a good idea to do something and then ignore all criticism of it until you actually do it, this has a good chance of ending up with you ignoring all criticism ever. Once you’ve actually pulled this off, you are a lot more resistant to the thought that it might not have been worth doing to begin with.
And much as I don’t want to see discussion of the ritual activities again, if you take that discussion somewhere else all the issues with criticism will only get worse.
To be honest, after typing this up and reflecting on it once again, I’m beginning to consider the secondary hypothesis that you’re deliberately mindkilling yourself to avoid ever being convinced that you are wrong.
I’m not responding to criticism in detail yet because I am honestly in the process of writing a detailed article that addresses all these concerns at once, in a more coherent manner than I can do responding to a bunch of individual posts.
I am soliciting criticism now in case there are potential issues that I haven’t thought about yet. My intent is NOT “do not object.” I want you to object. I am dealing with dangerous forces and I want to know about as many factors as possible. I’ve thought about some, but I’m sure there are more reasons to be afraid and many specific examples of the more abstract concerns I’ve thought about.
I am fairly confident that when all is said and done, I will still believe this is a good idea. I am open to persuasion otherwise, if people have concrete concerns that I can’t address. But I will also be making the case that this is not just fun but genuinely important, and I think you should at least be open to that possibility.
I haven’t read it until just now. My initial thought is that you’ve given this enough thought that you might be right, and I have to think about it some more. This thinking is probably going to end up coinciding with thinking if I want to stop reading and posting here (which I might do even if you are correct overall—it’s possible that the presence of people with my mindset, if there’s not too many of us, is insignificant enough that it falls neatly into your cost-benefit analysis).
Anyway, thank you for pointing me to your post, I appreciate it and the fact that you obviously did pay attention to my criticism even if it was not always generously worded.
It is honestly frustrating that every time anyone asks you “Why don’t you think this a bad idea, like I do?” you respond with “I will justify myself later; for now, go along with it and do not object.”
This bothers me as much as or more than the ritual stuff itself does. If you decide it’s a good idea to do something and then ignore all criticism of it until you actually do it, this has a good chance of ending up with you ignoring all criticism ever. Once you’ve actually pulled this off, you are a lot more resistant to the thought that it might not have been worth doing to begin with.
And much as I don’t want to see discussion of the ritual activities again, if you take that discussion somewhere else all the issues with criticism will only get worse.
To be honest, after typing this up and reflecting on it once again, I’m beginning to consider the secondary hypothesis that you’re deliberately mindkilling yourself to avoid ever being convinced that you are wrong.
I’m not responding to criticism in detail yet because I am honestly in the process of writing a detailed article that addresses all these concerns at once, in a more coherent manner than I can do responding to a bunch of individual posts.
I am soliciting criticism now in case there are potential issues that I haven’t thought about yet. My intent is NOT “do not object.” I want you to object. I am dealing with dangerous forces and I want to know about as many factors as possible. I’ve thought about some, but I’m sure there are more reasons to be afraid and many specific examples of the more abstract concerns I’ve thought about.
I am fairly confident that when all is said and done, I will still believe this is a good idea. I am open to persuasion otherwise, if people have concrete concerns that I can’t address. But I will also be making the case that this is not just fun but genuinely important, and I think you should at least be open to that possibility.
I was curious if you’d read the followup post, and if your opinion had updated in any noteworthy direction.
I haven’t read it until just now. My initial thought is that you’ve given this enough thought that you might be right, and I have to think about it some more. This thinking is probably going to end up coinciding with thinking if I want to stop reading and posting here (which I might do even if you are correct overall—it’s possible that the presence of people with my mindset, if there’s not too many of us, is insignificant enough that it falls neatly into your cost-benefit analysis).
Anyway, thank you for pointing me to your post, I appreciate it and the fact that you obviously did pay attention to my criticism even if it was not always generously worded.