Once I had an idea for a sci-fi setting, about a society where it is possible to create a second personality in your brain. Just like tulpa, except that it is done using technology.
I don’t think science is synonymous with technology.
I personally found Inception quite awful to watch because it gets so much about what the relevelant phenomema are about so wrong.
Having guns and shooting yourself through enemies in a dream? Really?
There nothing that stops you in the real world from putting a person on drugs and successfully suggesting to them that they find themselves in a particular dreamworld. You don’t need some magical technology to do so.
If you explain things away with magical technology you aren’t really writing sci-fi but you are writing fantasy.
A book that reference real concepts such as tulpas and hypnosis will be much more exiting than a book that just answers all the interesting questions with a black box technology.
Of course that requires actual research and talking to people who play around with those effects, but to me that feels much better because the resulting dilemmas are much more authentic.
If you explain things away with magical technology you aren’t really writing sci-fi but you are writing fantasy.
What is your problem with a story where it is possible to create a second personality in your brain using technology? (let’s discuss just this story idea here, but not Inception, for clarity). As far as my understanding of the issue goes, tulpas are likely using their host’s mental resources in a way, so to create a second personality that is capable of independent work during host’s downtime, some kind of hardware upgrade for a host’s mind should be necessary.
I imagine the necessary mind upgrade should be similar to upgrading single-core CPU to single-core CPU with hyper-threading.
What is your problem with a story where it is possible to create a second personality in your brain using technology?
I think you likely ignorant about a lot of practical aspects that come up when one creates a second personality inside a person if you never talked to someone who dealt with the issue on a practical level.
I particularly don’t believe in the need to have a full persona that’s unaware of the host. I heard an anecdote on a hypnosis seminar about a hypnotherapist who created a secondary persona in a college student to help the student learn. Every morning the second persona would first wake up and learn. Then it went to sleep and after a hour the real person would wake up. I don’t remember the detail exactly but I think without a awareness of they exact memory of the morning.
But there was no issue of the second persona, not fulfilling the role. She was the role. The same goes for Tulpas. A Tulpa doesn’t go around disapproving of the host actions but is on a fundamental level accepting of the host. If there’s a real clash I doubt that censoring memories would be enough to prevent psychological harm.
so to create a second personality that is capable of independent work during host’s downtime, some kind of hardware upgrade for a host’s mind should be necessary.
We have reports of people sleep walking which you could label “independent work during host’s downtime”. Secondly to a point time spent in meditation usually reduces the need for sleep.
But there are probably still physical processes that you don’t want to skip so some limited time of real sleep is probably always important. But I don’t think Villiam suggested that people in his society effectively don’t sleep.
I don’t think science is synonymous with technology.
I personally found Inception quite awful to watch because it gets so much about what the relevelant phenomema are about so wrong.
Having guns and shooting yourself through enemies in a dream? Really?
There nothing that stops you in the real world from putting a person on drugs and successfully suggesting to them that they find themselves in a particular dreamworld. You don’t need some magical technology to do so.
If you explain things away with magical technology you aren’t really writing sci-fi but you are writing fantasy.
A book that reference real concepts such as tulpas and hypnosis will be much more exiting than a book that just answers all the interesting questions with a black box technology. Of course that requires actual research and talking to people who play around with those effects, but to me that feels much better because the resulting dilemmas are much more authentic.
What is your problem with a story where it is possible to create a second personality in your brain using technology? (let’s discuss just this story idea here, but not Inception, for clarity). As far as my understanding of the issue goes, tulpas are likely using their host’s mental resources in a way, so to create a second personality that is capable of independent work during host’s downtime, some kind of hardware upgrade for a host’s mind should be necessary.
I imagine the necessary mind upgrade should be similar to upgrading single-core CPU to single-core CPU with hyper-threading.
I think you likely ignorant about a lot of practical aspects that come up when one creates a second personality inside a person if you never talked to someone who dealt with the issue on a practical level.
I particularly don’t believe in the need to have a full persona that’s unaware of the host. I heard an anecdote on a hypnosis seminar about a hypnotherapist who created a secondary persona in a college student to help the student learn. Every morning the second persona would first wake up and learn. Then it went to sleep and after a hour the real person would wake up. I don’t remember the detail exactly but I think without a awareness of they exact memory of the morning.
But there was no issue of the second persona, not fulfilling the role. She was the role. The same goes for Tulpas. A Tulpa doesn’t go around disapproving of the host actions but is on a fundamental level accepting of the host. If there’s a real clash I doubt that censoring memories would be enough to prevent psychological harm.
We have reports of people sleep walking which you could label “independent work during host’s downtime”. Secondly to a point time spent in meditation usually reduces the need for sleep.
But there are probably still physical processes that you don’t want to skip so some limited time of real sleep is probably always important. But I don’t think Villiam suggested that people in his society effectively don’t sleep.
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