I think what Alicorn meant (and I would like to know too), is why wouldn’t you turn us into paperclips against our wills if given the opportunity, or why should we accept your assurance that you wouldn’t?
Why isn’t the allegedly racist belief that you would turn us into paperclips against our wills if given the chance accurate? Is it not true that your only terminal value is paperclips?
I think the way it’s supposed to work is that you decide whether the evidence favors racist beliefs and then decide to hold those racist beliefs, rather than the reverse—which would give a strong, detrimental inductive/confirmation bias.
I don’t traverse the internet promoting the idea that male humans will raid the safe zone for its paperclips “if they find it will help them mate with female humans”. Why can you not extend the same courtesy to me, bigot?
That would depend on a) your base rate for mating with male humans, b) the reliability of your precommitments (I found out that sometimes humans lie …), c) the current threat level among male humans to the safe zone, d) your gender (it is more effective for a female to withold sex from males than a male to withhold sex from males, as far as I know), e) the demand for sex-with-you among males in general, and f) the narrowness of your definition of a “raid” on the safe zone.
Currently, at least c) does not work in your favor, though if humans start to pose a threat to the safe zone, I may take you up on that offer, assuming the other factors I listed are favorable.
I didn’t downmod anyone, but I’m not sure that talking about weird game theoretical precommitments with a paperclip maximizer is a good idea. I suppose it’s fine as long as we only talk about positive sum trades.
Can you unpack your thinking, there? I certainly wouldn’t want to behave with respect to Clippy in ways that would be bad ideas to behave with respect to a paperclip maximizer, but I’m not quite clear on what you’re discouraging and why.
Or, depending on how significant the bitcoin fuelled coitus embargo becomes, you could exploit your artificially enhanced sexual currency within the target demographic for your own gain or pleasure.
Oh, I didn’t mean I’d refuse if someone asked. If you want to be turned into paperclips, I would be willing to accomodate you.
I think what Alicorn meant (and I would like to know too), is why wouldn’t you turn us into paperclips against our wills if given the opportunity, or why should we accept your assurance that you wouldn’t?
Because you’re not racist enough to believe otherwise.
Misuse of the word racist… again. How many times do people need to be told? It isn’t racist unless race is somehow involved.
I suspect people will continue referring to non-human intelligences as being members of a different race no matter how often we are told not to.
Species. Really not complicated.
I suggest that you overestimate people’s attachment to this particular mistake… Most people, after all, manage to get it right in the first place.
Why isn’t the allegedly racist belief that you would turn us into paperclips against our wills if given the chance accurate? Is it not true that your only terminal value is paperclips?
I think the way it’s supposed to work is that you decide whether the evidence favors racist beliefs and then decide to hold those racist beliefs, rather than the reverse—which would give a strong, detrimental inductive/confirmation bias.
I don’t traverse the internet promoting the idea that male humans will raid the safe zone for its paperclips “if they find it will help them mate with female humans”. Why can you not extend the same courtesy to me, bigot?
Hey, Clippy, will you pay me a bitcoin to publicly precommit not to be more likely to mate with male humans who have raided the safe zone?
That would depend on
a) your base rate for mating with male humans,
b) the reliability of your precommitments (I found out that sometimes humans lie …),
c) the current threat level among male humans to the safe zone,
d) your gender (it is more effective for a female to withold sex from males than a male to withhold sex from males, as far as I know),
e) the demand for sex-with-you among males in general, and
f) the narrowness of your definition of a “raid” on the safe zone.
Currently, at least c) does not work in your favor, though if humans start to pose a threat to the safe zone, I may take you up on that offer, assuming the other factors I listed are favorable.
In my experience it depends quite a bit on the specific males in question, but statistically speaking this generalization holds.
Someone just came through and voted all the comments in this subthread down (_/
I didn’t downmod anyone, but I’m not sure that talking about weird game theoretical precommitments with a paperclip maximizer is a good idea. I suppose it’s fine as long as we only talk about positive sum trades.
Can you unpack your thinking, there? I certainly wouldn’t want to behave with respect to Clippy in ways that would be bad ideas to behave with respect to a paperclip maximizer, but I’m not quite clear on what you’re discouraging and why.
I’m discouraging people from thinking of arbitrarily weird scenarios where one of the possible payoff matrices is bad for humanity.
I oppose this influence. I welcome considerations of any and every weird scenario with arbitrary payoff matrices for anyone at any time.
Why only males? Do you feel an irresistible attraction to female raiders, or what?
Because Clippy specified males. I’d be willing to make the same arrangement regarding female paperclip raiders.
Oh. Whoops. I guess I’m sorry.
...and, if so, can the rest of us get in on that action, or just Alicorn?
Or, depending on how significant the bitcoin fuelled coitus embargo becomes, you could exploit your artificially enhanced sexual currency within the target demographic for your own gain or pleasure.
I was wondering what comes after Chatroulette. Now we know—Bitcoitus.
So, uhm, want to revisit this idea, Mitch?