Similar problem to born postulates and why we aren’t Boltzman Brains.
We are Boltzmann Brains. You simply don’t appreciate what restrictions are inherent in specifying the subset of Brains that can be called “we”.
Not that this has anything to do with the topic, which everyone is very carefully skating around without addressing: what are operational definitions for right and wrong? When Obert says “Because it seems blue, just as murder seems wrong.”, what collection of properties does wrong refer to? For that matter, what does blue refer to?
These questions have very simple and obvious answers which you will never grasp until you force yourself to face the questions. You mean something when you use the terms—you already recognize what is implied when you or someone else uses those terms. Now make that recognition explicit instead of implicit.
Do not “philosophize”. That is attempting to understand the territory by making a diagram of map-making. It’s adding another layer of analysis between you and the core concept, like an oyster adding a layer of nacre around an irritating bit of sand. You do not need a more complex ontology—you need to abolish the ontology.
Not that this has anything to do with the topic, which everyone is very carefully skating around without addressing: what are operational definitions for right and wrong? When Obert says “Because it seems blue, just as murder seems wrong.”, what collection of properties does wrong refer to? For that matter, what does blue refer to?
These questions have very simple and obvious answers which you will never grasp until you force yourself to face the questions. You mean something when you use the terms—you already recognize what is implied when you or someone else uses those terms. Now make that recognition explicit instead of implicit.
Do not “philosophize”. That is attempting to understand the territory by making a diagram of map-making. It’s adding another layer of analysis between you and the core concept, like an oyster adding a layer of nacre around an irritating bit of sand. You do not need a more complex ontology—you need to abolish the ontology.