My reply is to ask would a dog or cat live peacefully within a group of humans?
Neither dogs nor cats are particularly intelligent as animals go. For example, both are not as good at puzzle solving compared to many ravens, crows and other corvids when it comes to puzzle solving). For example, New Caledonian crowscan engage in sequential tool use. Moreover, chimpanzees are extremely intelligent and also very violent.
The particular example you gave, of dogs and domestic cats, is particularly bad because these species have been domesticated by humans, and thus have been bred for docility.
Humans are docile, civilized, domesticated. We can live with cats and dogs. I recently read in the news about a man with a wild Fox for a pet which was hand-reared by humans thus civilized, docile.
AIs will be civilized too, although I am sure they will shake their heads in despair regarding some of the ideas expressed on LessWrong.
Different species can coexist.
Incidentally I wish technology on Less Wrong would accelerate quicker: “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 6 minutes.” and… “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 8 minutes.”
None of what you wrote responds to the point at hand- you can’t use domesticated species as useful evidence of non-violence since domestic species are both bred that way and are in fact by most empirical tests pretty stupid.
Incidentally I wish technology on Less Wring would accelerate quicker: “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 6 minutes.” and… “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 8 minutes.”
Individuals with negative karma are rate limited in their posting rate.
Yes I did mention the fox… foxes are not particularly domesticated… anyway this “open” discussion is not very open now due to my negative Karma, it is too difficult to communicate, which I suppose is the idea of the karma system, to silence ideas you don’t want to hear about, thus I will conform to what you want. I shall leave you to your speculations regarding AI.
Neither dogs nor cats are particularly intelligent as animals go. For example, both are not as good at puzzle solving compared to many ravens, crows and other corvids when it comes to puzzle solving). For example, New Caledonian crowscan engage in sequential tool use. Moreover, chimpanzees are extremely intelligent and also very violent.
The particular example you gave, of dogs and domestic cats, is particularly bad because these species have been domesticated by humans, and thus have been bred for docility.
Humans are docile, civilized, domesticated. We can live with cats and dogs. I recently read in the news about a man with a wild Fox for a pet which was hand-reared by humans thus civilized, docile.
AIs will be civilized too, although I am sure they will shake their heads in despair regarding some of the ideas expressed on LessWrong.
Different species can coexist.
Incidentally I wish technology on Less Wrong would accelerate quicker: “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 6 minutes.” and… “You are trying to submit too fast. try again in 8 minutes.”
None of what you wrote responds to the point at hand- you can’t use domesticated species as useful evidence of non-violence since domestic species are both bred that way and are in fact by most empirical tests pretty stupid.
Individuals with negative karma are rate limited in their posting rate.
Yes I did mention the fox… foxes are not particularly domesticated… anyway this “open” discussion is not very open now due to my negative Karma, it is too difficult to communicate, which I suppose is the idea of the karma system, to silence ideas you don’t want to hear about, thus I will conform to what you want. I shall leave you to your speculations regarding AI.