Yet Batman lets countless people die by refusing to kill the Joker. What you term “coherence” seems to be mostly “virtue ethics”, and The Dark Knight is a warning what happens when virtue ethics goes too far.
I personally identify more with HPMoR’s Voldermort than any other character. He seems decently coherent. To me “villain” is a person whose goals and actions are harmful to my ingroup. This doesn’t seem to have much to do with coherence.
A reliable gear in a larger machine might be less agentic but more useful than a scheming Machiavellian.
The scheming itself brings me joy. Self-sacrifice does not. I assume this to be case for most people who read this. So if the scheming is a willpower restorer, keeping it seems useful. I’m not an EA, but I’d guess most of them can point to coherent-looking calculations on why what they’re doing is better for effiency reasons as well.
You raise an interesting point about virtue ethics—I don’t think that is required for moral coherence, I think it is just a shortcut. A consequentialist must be prepared to evaluate ~all outcomes to approach moral coherence, but a virtue ethicist really only needs to evaluate their own actions, which is much easier.
Yet Batman lets countless people die by refusing to kill the Joker. What you term “coherence” seems to be mostly “virtue ethics”, and The Dark Knight is a warning what happens when virtue ethics goes too far.
I personally identify more with HPMoR’s Voldermort than any other character. He seems decently coherent. To me “villain” is a person whose goals and actions are harmful to my ingroup. This doesn’t seem to have much to do with coherence.
The scheming itself brings me joy. Self-sacrifice does not. I assume this to be case for most people who read this. So if the scheming is a willpower restorer, keeping it seems useful. I’m not an EA, but I’d guess most of them can point to coherent-looking calculations on why what they’re doing is better for effiency reasons as well.
You raise an interesting point about virtue ethics—I don’t think that is required for moral coherence, I think it is just a shortcut. A consequentialist must be prepared to evaluate ~all outcomes to approach moral coherence, but a virtue ethicist really only needs to evaluate their own actions, which is much easier.