Why do you think it is dishonest for different people to have different levels
The argument is that you should do this “as a mixed strategy”, which would mean that even a group of people with identical beliefs would act differently based on a random factor. Furthermore, I qualified it with:
even if all those people believe exactly the same thing
so they don’t have different levels.
And even in the different levels case, it’s easy for people to pretend they have greater differences than they really do, and their actual differences may not be enough to make the statements truthful.
IMHO harm reduction is how we create the change to one day be able to protect animals with outrage alone.
It may be the case that you can save more animals if some percentage of you lie than if you all tell the truth. Whether it’s okay to lie in a “harmless” way for your ideology is a subject that’s been debated quite a lot in a number of contexts. (I do think it’s okay to lie to prevent the murder of a human outgroup, although even then, you need to be very careful, particularly with widespread lies.)
I don’t appreciate your hostility and assumption of bad faith here. Like I could answer your objections and point out that your hypothetical is misleading (because you’re stipulating that people aren’t different and differences in preferences and motivations are what explain why a mixed strategy works), but it seems like that’s not really your issue.
The concept of “least convenient possible world” comes in here. There may be situations in which a mixed strategy is possible without lying, but your idea applies both to those situations and to less convenient situations where it does require lying.
The argument is that you should do this “as a mixed strategy”, which would mean that even a group of people with identical beliefs would act differently based on a random factor. Furthermore, I qualified it with:
so they don’t have different levels.
And even in the different levels case, it’s easy for people to pretend they have greater differences than they really do, and their actual differences may not be enough to make the statements truthful.
It may be the case that you can save more animals if some percentage of you lie than if you all tell the truth. Whether it’s okay to lie in a “harmless” way for your ideology is a subject that’s been debated quite a lot in a number of contexts. (I do think it’s okay to lie to prevent the murder of a human outgroup, although even then, you need to be very careful, particularly with widespread lies.)
I don’t appreciate your hostility and assumption of bad faith here. Like I could answer your objections and point out that your hypothetical is misleading (because you’re stipulating that people aren’t different and differences in preferences and motivations are what explain why a mixed strategy works), but it seems like that’s not really your issue.
The concept of “least convenient possible world” comes in here. There may be situations in which a mixed strategy is possible without lying, but your idea applies both to those situations and to less convenient situations where it does require lying.