Generally this theory is said to imply that the planes were remote controlled , correct? I’ve always wondered how this theory fits in with all of the dead passengers. Could you explain that please?*
*I apologize for any perceived troll-feeding, I’ve always wanted to understand this.
The truthers diverge widely on this. Some think there really were muslim hijackers, some think the planes were swapped with drones and the passengers were shot in the head or something, some think the passengers and crew were knocked out or killed with gas while the planes were in the air, and then they were flown by autopilot into their targets.
You’d be hard pressed to find two truthers who agree about what really happened on 9/11, just as you’d be hard pressed to find two singularitarians who agree about the singularity. As the saying goes, the fringe likes to fray.
All the theories are quite contorted, but it’s important to bear in mind that the official story is also contorted, and full of holes to boot. It’s just that we’re familiar with it. For instance, those cell phone calls from 30000 feet?
I’m done after this, but nothing I’ve read ever claimed that flight had used them. And as I’ve said, the mobile phone calls would have been certainly possible.
You accept that airplanes can have radio contact with the ground as part of normal operation, but have trouble with the idea that the radios in mobile phones could work? (Yes they are lower power, but they’re just radios.)
That’s not difficult at all. The remote control of the planes was designed to be used in the event of a hijack. That means once activated there is no possibility for anyone on the plane, not even the pilot to do anything about it. Probably the passengers weren’t even aware of what was happening because I suppose the pilots didn’t tell them “Ahem, I just want you to know that we are no longer in control of this plane. Keep your calm.”
The blackboxes could reveal what happened but, conveniently they didn’t survive, at least that’s the official story.
Regarding the passengers what is hard to explain is why the alleged terrorists don’t appear on the passenger lists and all the passengers on the list really died so there is no possibility of someone having flown under false identity.
Edit: Maybe I should make this clear. There were some companies who have a built in anti-hijack system that allows the plane to be overtaken and controlled from the outside. Those are not special planes.
More info at:
http://www.911-strike.com/remote.htm
Generally this theory is said to imply that the planes were remote controlled , correct? I’ve always wondered how this theory fits in with all of the dead passengers. Could you explain that please?*
*I apologize for any perceived troll-feeding, I’ve always wanted to understand this.
The truthers diverge widely on this. Some think there really were muslim hijackers, some think the planes were swapped with drones and the passengers were shot in the head or something, some think the passengers and crew were knocked out or killed with gas while the planes were in the air, and then they were flown by autopilot into their targets.
You’d be hard pressed to find two truthers who agree about what really happened on 9/11, just as you’d be hard pressed to find two singularitarians who agree about the singularity. As the saying goes, the fringe likes to fray.
All the theories are quite contorted, but it’s important to bear in mind that the official story is also contorted, and full of holes to boot. It’s just that we’re familiar with it. For instance, those cell phone calls from 30000 feet?
I didn’t watch your video, but most of the “impossible” calls were from flipping GTE Airphones, not cell phones.
The calls that were actually made by cellular phones (near the end) would certainly have been possible.
(I was an RF engineer for a mobile phone company until I changed jobs this year)
I hesitate to post this, because… debating 9/11 conspiracy people on Less Wrong?!
At least we don’t have any “fundies” yet. ;)
As the video explains, it later came to light that flight 77 did not HAVE airphones.
I’m done after this, but nothing I’ve read ever claimed that flight had used them. And as I’ve said, the mobile phone calls would have been certainly possible.
You accept that airplanes can have radio contact with the ground as part of normal operation, but have trouble with the idea that the radios in mobile phones could work? (Yes they are lower power, but they’re just radios.)
I suggest you read this
http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2008/04/griffin-and-barrett-suggest-olsons-were.html
That’s not difficult at all. The remote control of the planes was designed to be used in the event of a hijack. That means once activated there is no possibility for anyone on the plane, not even the pilot to do anything about it. Probably the passengers weren’t even aware of what was happening because I suppose the pilots didn’t tell them “Ahem, I just want you to know that we are no longer in control of this plane. Keep your calm.”
The blackboxes could reveal what happened but, conveniently they didn’t survive, at least that’s the official story.
Regarding the passengers what is hard to explain is why the alleged terrorists don’t appear on the passenger lists and all the passengers on the list really died so there is no possibility of someone having flown under false identity.
Edit: Maybe I should make this clear. There were some companies who have a built in anti-hijack system that allows the plane to be overtaken and controlled from the outside. Those are not special planes. More info at: http://www.911-strike.com/remote.htm