Are we sure that going vegan is the most rational solution to the problem? If we had a magical button that would instill a value in all human beings at the same time, would vegan be the best to install to solve the problem? Since “going vegan” usually hand-waves the solution to a massive coordination problem, couldn’t we just extract the hand-wave and apply it to something which is more effective?
I feel like growing meat is a better solution because you can get rid of most of the problems with regards to inefficiencies, without losing things like eating meat (which is tasty).
I don’t know if it is being counted as vegan, now that you ask. But in the link I saw it being given as a counterargument, and the reply was “it’s too expensive right now” instead of “you’re right but that’s not being vegan”.
To me, though, veganism is about “not eating meat”. (I am not a vegan though) That’s what the whole movement seems to be about. But then again I didn’t check in a dictionary, so maybe it means something different. Google gives me “a person who does not eat or use animal products.” for “Vegan”, which I guess means that vatgrown meat is vegan because it didn’t include animals (large animals) in the process.
… What doesn’t help is that the word seems, well—“vegetarian” → something to do with vegetation → eater of PLANTS—like a word that means “does not eat meat”. Not “does not eat animals”. I suppose someone with more time on their hands might tell you that vegetation means “that which does not move” or something like that, and thus vegetation doesn’t mean plants but “non-movables” e.g. “not animals”.
So I don’t know. Depends on your definition of “vegan”.
“Vegan” has a fairly clear definition and Google got it quite right. It’s about not treating animals like property. Not eating meat is just a consequence of being vegan. Vatgrown meat is vegan, in fact many the people behind SuperMeat are vegans.
Are we sure that going vegan is the most rational solution to the problem? If we had a magical button that would instill a value in all human beings at the same time, would vegan be the best to install to solve the problem?
Since “going vegan” usually hand-waves the solution to a massive coordination problem, couldn’t we just extract the hand-wave and apply it to something which is more effective?
I feel like growing meat is a better solution because you can get rid of most of the problems with regards to inefficiencies, without losing things like eating meat (which is tasty).
I think grown (as in a vat) meat does count as vegan, or?
I don’t know if it is being counted as vegan, now that you ask. But in the link I saw it being given as a counterargument, and the reply was “it’s too expensive right now” instead of “you’re right but that’s not being vegan”.
To me, though, veganism is about “not eating meat”. (I am not a vegan though) That’s what the whole movement seems to be about. But then again I didn’t check in a dictionary, so maybe it means something different. Google gives me “a person who does not eat or use animal products.” for “Vegan”, which I guess means that vatgrown meat is vegan because it didn’t include animals (large animals) in the process.
… What doesn’t help is that the word seems, well—“vegetarian” → something to do with vegetation → eater of PLANTS—like a word that means “does not eat meat”. Not “does not eat animals”. I suppose someone with more time on their hands might tell you that vegetation means “that which does not move” or something like that, and thus vegetation doesn’t mean plants but “non-movables” e.g. “not animals”.
So I don’t know. Depends on your definition of “vegan”.
“Vegan” has a fairly clear definition and Google got it quite right. It’s about not treating animals like property. Not eating meat is just a consequence of being vegan. Vatgrown meat is vegan, in fact many the people behind SuperMeat are vegans.
I would totally support that, for instance.
Really? https://igg.me/at/supermeat/x