I’m hoping the whole thing is tongue-in-cheek...? (If so, it’s merely the product of poor judgment, rather than terrifying.)
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It’s not so much the content as the presentation. The tone is incredibly self-absorbed and condescending. I thought the whole thing was a joke until I encountered the above quoted paragraph with its apparent sincerity. Presumably some of the content is intended to be tongue-in-check and some of it posturing, but it’s difficult to separate. There’s a compounding weirdness to the whole thing. Fetishes or open relationships or whatever aren’t in themselves causes for concern but when somebody is trying to advocate for rationalism and a particular approach to ethics, the sense that you’re following them somewhere very strange isn’t good to have.
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Less Wrong is already weird enough without the blatant weirdness in EY’s OKCupid profile. I’m seriously disappointed and worried by the fact that it’s still public, to be honest...
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Of course, there’s also supportive comments similarly upvoted, but those comments prove that at least a few LWers agreed ‘yeah, that’s pretty blatantly weird’.
I kinda-agree with the following from that thread:
a: >99% of the time that you see that sort of profile, you really should keep the hell away from that person unless you are masochistic enough or other special conditions apply.
and b: you should sincerely thank Eliezer for writing the profile in such honest manner!
Both appear to be likely, but not in the sense that private_messaging/Dmitry seems to imply (“Eliezer really is messed up”). As social pressure against men openly stating that they’re sexually sadistic is horrifying, worse than for masochistic men (and all kinds of BDSM for women) - I should know, I’m in the same boat here! (to clarify: yes, I’m sexually sadistic and dominance is hot to me, in a “consensual” framing) -
′ - so every man who’d put this kind of thing on his profile must either 1) be socially tone-deaf, 2) have dangerously sociopathic tendencies, or 3) be uncommonly open, brave and honest.
I’d also say that upon studying the rest of the profile—which is hard not to if one reads from the beginning—it’s clear to a (minimally unprejudiced) reader that Eliezer must be the latter of those 3. Or one of the “1%” cases in which you needn’t run away, as per the quoted comment.
It’s also wrong; look, for example, at when Eliezer’s OKCupid profile came up in a newspaper http://lesswrong.com/lw/ds4/article_about_lw_faith_hope_and_singularity/73gd
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Of course, there’s also supportive comments similarly upvoted, but those comments prove that at least a few LWers agreed ‘yeah, that’s pretty blatantly weird’.
I kinda-agree with the following from that thread:
Both appear to be likely, but not in the sense that private_messaging/Dmitry seems to imply (“Eliezer really is messed up”). As social pressure against men openly stating that they’re sexually sadistic is horrifying, worse than for masochistic men (and all kinds of BDSM for women) - I should know, I’m in the same boat here! (to clarify: yes, I’m sexually sadistic and dominance is hot to me, in a “consensual” framing) -
′ - so every man who’d put this kind of thing on his profile must either 1) be socially tone-deaf, 2) have dangerously sociopathic tendencies, or 3) be uncommonly open, brave and honest.
I’d also say that upon studying the rest of the profile—which is hard not to if one reads from the beginning—it’s clear to a (minimally unprejudiced) reader that Eliezer must be the latter of those 3. Or one of the “1%” cases in which you needn’t run away, as per the quoted comment.